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Cold War, Part II

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It's very difficult to explain how anyone could ever have thought that Russia would simply "give up" its hostility towards the West and its values and institutions just because it "lost" the Cold War, and could therefore "never go back" to Soviet values. Where did this insane idea come from? Is it just frenzied Western arrogance? If the West had lost the Cold War, would we have simply repudiated democracy and adopted a communist dictatorship?

The latest confirmation that Russians never abandoned their hatred of the West came in Vladimir Putin's eighth (possibly last) state-of-the-nation message. In it, as Reuters reports, he announced the unilateral suspension of Russia's implementation of the Conventional Forces in Europe (CFE) treaty, essentially challenging Europe to a new cold war. As if that were not bad enough, Russia's parliament called for breaking diplomatic relations with Estonia, a NATO and EU member, when Estonia dared to move a memorial to Soviet soldiers whom Estonia views as occupiers and rapists.

At a NATO meeting in Oslo, Reuters reports:

NATO expressed grave concern. NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer stated: "That message was met by concern, grave concern, disappointment and regret," de Hoop Scheffer told a news conference. "The allies are of the opinion that the CFE is one of the cornerstones of European security."

So Russia has violated a "cornerstone of European security." Putin says the reason is that "[NATO countries] are ... building up military bases on our borders and, more than that, they are also planning to station elements of anti-missile defence systems in Poland and the Czech Republic." Does Russia plan to fire missiles at Poland and Czech Republic? Is that why it's annoyed? Does Russia believe these defensive systems violate the CFE? Putin certainly does not say so. Putin said it was "an anachronism that Russia should be restricted in how it can deploy its armed forces within its own borders, while NATO countries used pretexts to bend the terms of the treaty." Yet he's not bending, but breaking the document, unilaterally, after Russia ratified it, with no formalities.

In a classic bit of Soviet-style propaganda, Putin stated: "It is hard to imagine that anyone would restrict the United States, for example, in moving its troops around its own territory." But this treaty doesn't apply to the U.S., it applies to Europe, and it restricts movement of troops in Western Europe exactly the same way it does in Russia.

During the Cold War, Russia behaved as if it was the West's equal when it wasn't. It behaved as if Western nations were populated by hopeless idiots Russians could easily flim-flam, bamboozle and outwit. This behavior destroyed the Soviet Union, yet apparently Russia has learned nothing from that experience. Apparently, it will allow its obtuse pride to drive it once again into a direct confrontation with a whole host of countries whose economies and military forces dwarf those of Russia. The USSR only lasted 75 years. Will Russia, its successor, last even that long, if it continues these wild-eyed, unrealistic policies?

Russian hypocrisy and willingness to provoke cold war is truly breathtaking. As if all this provocation was not enough, just moments after complaining in his state-of-the-nation speech that foreigners were supporting the "Other Russia" protest movement, Putin sent the Nashi youth cult into Estonia in an effort to block that country's removal of a memorial to Soviet soliders from a main public square in the capital city of Tallinn. Estonians, of course, view the Red Army which occupied and enslaved them in much the same way as Russians view the Nazis. Nashi provoked a riot, the Estonian government ended it, and now Russian politicians, referring to Estonians as "inhuman," are calling for Russia to break diplomatic relations with Estonia, a NATO and EU member. An Estonian blogger wrote (posting a photo of a wild-eyed looter/rioter): "Just a friendly reminder here, the Estonian government moved a monument from a central square to a cemetery. And the Russians consider that grounds for severing diplomatic ties. Will they take off their shoes and bang them on their desks when the vote is taken?" He reminds us that Estonia is enaged in an even-handed effort to deal with issues of this kind. Thus: "Three years ago, in a small Estonian town called Lihula, the Estonian government removed another monument, this time one to Estonians who had fought in the 20th Waffen SS to -- as they say -- keep the Red Army out of Estonia long enough to restore Estonian independence."

When Chechnya is at issue, Russia says it's a "domestic" Russian affair and foreigners have no business "interfering." When Iraq is at issue, Russia demands talk rather than confrontation. But when Estonia is at issue, Russians have the "right" to intervene by any means they choose. Russia doesn't ask: "What if Estonia (or America) tried to tell Russia what to do with its war dead?" If "Other Russia" protests peacefully in Russia's streets, the Kremlin has the right to crush them; but if Nashi riots in Estonia, the Estonians are supposed to ignore it. Exactly this sort of mindboggling hypocrisy brought down the USSR, and now Russia is doing the same thing all over again!

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Comments


MKSheppard says:

So what? Perhaps this will cause the European weenies to actually spend money once more on defense.


Gus says:

Good news! Attempting to keep up with the U.S. in military spending bankrupt the USSR. Maybe they will squander the current generations' wasted oil wealth in a similar fashion. Russia's population is in free fall. Its people are largely neurotic and in poor heath. Iran and China represent bigger threats to the long-term health of Russia than the hated U.S.

If Putin really wants to lead down this lonely road right now (and this appears to be what a majority of Russians want) then let him. He, like is Soviet forefathers, will fail. He may also serve to awaken slumbering Europe to both the threat from a revanchist Russia and from radical Islam.


Brian H says:

I'm sure Poland et al will be just thrilled. Not to mention the Baltic states.

NATO is likely to get real busy, real soon.


Nothing is Free says:

Right now the only ones chasing shadows, starting unnecessary wars, spending themselves into oblivion is the USA.


Aris Katsaris says:

Well yes, but the Bush administration is in less than two years be replaced, and Bush won't have much say in who it is that will replace him.

Putin's administration is on the other hand gonna handpick its successor, whether that's Ivanov or some other fellow siloviki. And life will proceed as usual, and Russia's occupation of Georgia and Moldova is going to continue, and Russia's internal crushing of all dissent will go on.


Nothing is Free says:

"It's the economy, stupid!" Economy is OK, so no dissent. Thanks to the benchmark set for "Not OK" during Yeltsin's reign, it should be comparatively OK for a long time. However, OK economy can lead to OK middle-class, who may want to have more say in how things are run. As long as Russia refuses to get dragged into a confrontation with the West, I am optimistic.


Aris Katsaris says:

I've seen it argued that instead of incompetent-but-nice Yeltsin followed by a competent-but-evil Putin, Yeltsin's bad reign was deliberately designed to portray democracy and capitalism in a bad light, and thus allow the siloviki's hold on power for a couple more decades, with the rise of Putin.

That's a conspiracy theory, and I'm not necessarily arguing in favor of it. We do have to remember however that Yeltsin handpicked Putin for his successor, so it's not as if they were *opponents*. Their rules are merely different tactics in the same strategy.

The same way that whoever Putin chooses for *his* successor will be following the same strategies of fascism internally and imperialism externally, even if utilising different tactics.

Given everything I hear, the economy of Russia is not OK -- and its middle class is not expanding.


armchair pessimist says:

When the USSR fell apart somebody asked Bush I why he didn't seem very happy. In his funny, gosh-golly, junior varsity language, he mumbled something about not being an enthusiasitic kind of guy. At the time I thought, what a wet banket. Now, I'm not so sure.

It'd be interesting to be a fly on the wall during a conversation on that subject between him and Putin; I suspect they might see eye to eye.

No, I don't think a weak and broke Russia is at all in the interests of the USA or the West. But neither is a pissed-off Russia that's picking itself up off the floor, which is what we got.

If we don't handle this very carefully--and we won't--we'll be facing a perfect storm of foaming Islam, sullen Russia, and grinning China. Europe? Dependent on Russian energy. Neutral and neutralised. After we're knocked down, its pals will devour Russia.

Funny. We're such a nation of salesmen and dealmakers, but we can't sell Russia on its true interests.



Nothing is Free says:

Let's see. No external debt. Inflation droppign year-on-year. Growth about 6% (not great, but it's been consistent for the last 8 year). Huge foreign-currency reserves. Rising car sales, booming retail (the super-rich do not need Ikea stores and Renault Logans). I don't really see any imperalism in Russia's external dealings. They haven't bombed or invaded anyone. Nor have they threatened to. As far as internal repressions, there are always liberal/conservative swings in Russia. This is a reaction to the chaotic 90s. As people move beyond mere survival, they are more interested in having more say in their government. That's been the case pretty much everywhere. WRT American system of democratic feedback, stealing presedential elections may just become a new tradition.


Nothing is Free says:

If the choice is between Russia becoming Europe's Canada and Russia becoming China's Canada (or Tibet?), the former is preferrable, and then Europe hasn't done a great sales job. Without Russia's resources, China will still be a superpower. China with Russia's resources will be unstoppable.


Aris Katsaris says:

They haven't bombed or invaded anyone.

LOL! Several dozens thousands (perhaps hundreds thousands) dead in Chechnya not good enough for you? Their military support for the dictator separatists in Transdniester and Abkhazia and South Ossetia not good enough for you? Their support for the dictators in Belarus and in Kazakhstan and in Kyrgyzstan and in Tajikistan, (and in Iran and in Syria ofcourse), not good enough for you? Their support for the Serb genocidal imperialists in Bosnia, not good enough for you? Their support (alongside China) for the Sudanese genocide in Darfur, not good enough for you?

They haven't bombed or invaded anyone! LOL! They've bombed Chechnya, and they've invaded both Georgia and Moldova. This is just the start, same as Sudetenland was just the start for Hitler.

Their wrath over the removal of a statue in Estonia that commemorates the Russian invasion of their country, not a good enough hint for you?

Their murder of Politkovskaya and Litvinenko and Yushenkov, and Yefimova, and Chaikova, and Klebnikov and dozens others, not good enough for you? Their poisoning of Yushchenko in Ukraine not good enough for you? Their harassmenent of ethnic Georgians shopkeepers in a way reminiscent of the anti-jewish pogroms of 1930s Germany, not good enough for you?

We live in the 1930s. Russia is the rising Nazi Germany of our times.


Aris Katsaris says:

And as a sidenote, the United States's imperialism is merely the declining British Empire of our times in comparison.

Same as Nazi Germany used Anglo-American imperialism as part of its propaganda target (even though its own imperialism was much more savage and genocidal than anything that the Anglo-Americans dids), same way now Russia uses American imperialism in its propaganda, though its own planned imperialism is much more savage and genocidal in intent.


elmer says:

Russia has not bombed or invaded anyone??!!!


What Aris says.

And now Russia is offended because Estonia is moving SOVIET graves in ESTONIA.

So Russia very clearly identifies itself as SOVIET.

And Russia thinks that it has a right to tell Estonia what to do in its own land.

But when it comes to the Holodomor, the genocidal famine caused by Stalin and the Russian Soviets in Ukraine, all the little neo-sovok russkies start screaming like stuck pigs "It wasn't us, it was Stalin."

And Russia thinks that it has a right to tell Ukraine what to do in the Crimean peninsula, and in Ukrainian politics.

They even sent a delegation from the Russian Duma to sit in the Ukrainian parliament - to "help."


Growing economy in Russia? For whom? A few wealthy people. The rest of the country is sucking eggs.

Oh, yeah - Russia is conducting trade wars with Georgia, Ukraine and everyone else it can think of.

Good for the Georgians - one of the billboards for Georgian wine says "More freedom than is allowed."

Russia is just a sick bunch of misery-loving pukes.


Nothing is Free says:

Speaking of Nazi's, I am pretty certain that they were preoccupied with judeo-bolshevik conspiracies, rather than villifying the anglos. In fact, Hitler *admired* British colonialism, especially how Britain held India under its boot with so few men. Russia was to be his India, except it wasn't to be. BTW, British colonialist empire was not the benign benefactor of backward nation that many anglos think. It murdered millions of people. Americans were so good at genocide that no-one even remembers the tribes they butchered (making a "Dances with Wovles" or "Little Big Man" once a decade does not absolve them of the crime).

Will you blame Putin if it rains/doesn't rain tomorrow as well? Litvinenko was a tin-foil-brigade ass-clown. He had no credibility in the West, even less in Russia. Khlebnikov was *pro-Putin* and *anti-Berezovsky*. For some reason Yushchenko does not appear to be too interested in finding out who poisoned him. Many more journalists were killed during Yeltsin's boozy reign than under Putin. In many cases the fingers were pointed at Berezovsky and Gusinsky, but they were in Yeltsin's racket at the time, so nothing came of it.

Russia supports the various tinpot dictators no more no less than America supports the Saudi family. It's just business. There is no idealogy involved whatsoever. The harassment of Georgians was an ugly event, but it was reigned in rather quickly, and was nothing like what was happening in Germany in the 30's (and Poland for that matter), or Russia in the 1900's. It's not state policy or state idealogy. Estonia has nothing better to do than disturb the dead. The Serbs in Bosnia were practicing the same kind of separatism that is about to be so richly rewarded in Kosovo.

Bombing Chechnya was ugly but necessary, and it was separatist state, not a foreign country. The separatist statelets in Georgia and Moldova would not have happened had it not been for the extreme nationalism (make it chauvinism) of the governments of said states at the time. The guy running Georgia was an absolute nutter in fact. Had Russia been such a fascist imperialist state, it would have stirred up secessionist trouble in all the many places where a lot of ethic Russians live: Eastern Ukraine (was Kharkov ever really Ukranian before the Soviet Union?), Latvia, Estonia, Crimea (that one is easy). Eastern Kazakhstan (never such an entity existed). It has done no such thing.



Nothing is Free says:

Russia identifies itself with the people, whatever their nationality may be, who defeated Nazism. As for the squeaky-clean Ukranians - the NKVD was stacked with them, as was the Politburo. Gorbachov, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Chernenko - all were Ukrainian. Holodomor happened everywhere, not just Ukraine. If the Ukes are such peace-loving liberals, why not hold a referendum in Crimea?


Aris Katsaris says:

"Speaking of Nazi's, I am pretty certain that they were preoccupied with judeo-bolshevik conspiracies, rather than villifying the anglos."

Then you've not studied the propaganda of the times that well. The Anglo-American were depicted as the tools of the Jews and the Jews were likewise depicted as the agents and spies of the Anglo-Americans. The Nazi hatred of the "Jewish money" and the dollar is reminiscent of Putin vilifying foreign money being donated to NGOs in Russia.

You say:
"Litvinenko was a tin-foil-brigade ass-clown.

After Russia murders, it also tries to murder the memory of the people it killed through its agents like you.

Litvinenko's photo was used as *target-practice* in Russia!

And State Duma member Sergei Abeltsev said regarding Litvinenko "The deserved punishment reached the traitor. I am sure his terrible death will be a warning to all the traitors that in Russia the treason is not to be forgiven. I would recommend to citizen Berezovsky to avoid any food at the commemoration for his crime accomplice Litvinenko"

You are defending shameless murderers, who kill them in the open and then spit on the memory of the people they've just killed.

He had no credibility in the West, even less in Russia. "

And also employ others to spit on the memory they've just killed, yes, you're living example of that.

For some reason Yushchenko does not appear to be too interested in finding out who poisoned him.

We know who decided the poisoning of Yushchenko, nothing to "find out here", anymore about Litvinenko's case. Only the self-deluded still think the Kremlin and its lackeys are innocent.

Many more journalists were killed during Yeltsin's boozy reign than under Putin.

Well that's what I said, wasn't it? That Putin's reign is a mere continuation of Yeltsin's. Yeltsin *chose* Putin after all.

Russia supports the various tinpot dictators no more no less than America supports the Saudi family

No, Russia supports tinpot dictators far *far* more than America does. America's primary circle of allies (NATO) is a group of democracies. Russia's primary circle of allies (most of the former CIS, the Shanghai Cooperation) Organization) are all dictatorships.

The Serbs in Bosnia were practicing the same kind of separatism that is about to be so richly rewarded in Kosovo.

The West's support for the Kosovar separatists was wrongheaded, but it was founded on their unwillingness to permit another round of Serb ethnic cleansing, as they commited in Bosnia. They didn't recognize Kosovar imperialism for what it was.

But since Serb's round of genocide came first, what's the excuse for Russia's support for them?

Bombing Chechnya was ugly but necessary, and it was separatist state, not a foreign country.

Russia bombed its own countrymen then, and you see that as somehow *more* justified and excusable than bombing a foreign country?

Interesting.

The separatist statelets in Georgia and Moldova would not have happened had it not been for the extreme nationalism (make it chauvinism) of the governments of said states at the time.

LOL!! Yeah, 500.000 Georgians ethnically cleansed, and it was the *Georgians* fault I guess, that they had to flee their homes.

Inside Georgia the Abkhazians atleast had the right to vote, now their vote is meaningless, same as it's meaningless in all other Russian protectorates, like Belarus.

Had Russia been such a fascist imperialist state, it would have stirred up secessionist trouble in all the many places where a lot of ethic Russians live: Eastern Ukraine

Not as long they still hope to have the *whole* of Ukraine to be theirs under Yanukovich. If they fail in devouring it whole, then they'll start with the piecemeal consumption. (same way they don't need to separate eastern Kazakhstan, it's *all* theirs)

Don't you remember how soon after the Orange revolution, the governors of eastern and southern regions of Ukraine met with Yanukovych and Moscow Mayor Yuriy Luzhkov to discuss autonomy or independence for the Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine?

Because I do.

That's the sort of tactics we're gonna see again. We don't see them yet, because they're still attempting to have Ukraine whole under Yanukovich. If Yanukovich fails again, then we'll see them again, as we saw them before.


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Nothing is Free says:

Anti-semitism and anti-bolshevism was the Nazis raison d’être. Hitler didn't want war with Britain. Everything was about lebensraum in the East.

Litvinenko needed no discreditation. He'd done enough himself. (Abel'tsev is an LDPR clown. He represents the mainstream like Pat Robertson does.) Litvinenko was most useful alive, as he made a mockery of whatever opposition exists in Russia. He sure was no longer useful to Berezovsky.

Eastern Kazahkstan belongs to Russia? That's news to the Russians living there (and those who left). It's certainly news to the Nazarbayev clan. Just look at the government of Kazakhstan.

Separatism is contagious. Just look at Yugoslavia. Tough situations call for tough measures (just look at Iraq).

The Georgians were the first ones to act like assholes. They just didn't count on Russians to intervene. I don't think the current Georgian nationalism is very attractive to Abkhazians and Ossetians.

The Saudi family is 10 times worse than anyone that Russia "supports". They are the number 1 exporter of terrorism. Russia does not really support anyone. Support means subsidies. Now there are no freebies. Iran is just business. Russia's biggest dream would be for America to bomb Iran, the oil prices to sky-rocket and then earn money rebuilding Iran's infrastructure. The next one is chaos in Iran/Iraq, sky-high oil prices, selling weapons to all sides. The best thing is that they don't have to do anything for any of these scenarios to eventuate. America is doing a fine job on her own. If Bush is replaced with another "stay the course" moron, well that would be just dandy (for Russia).

As for Ukraine... If the options are NATO Ukraine and split up Ukraine, Russia would take the latter. If a neutral Ukraine is possible (without the forced West-Ukrainization of the East and South and stealing of gas), then Russia would be happy with the situation. They don't want any adventures that's for sure. Why bomb, invade your own investments?


Aris Katsaris says:

Litvinenko's photograph was used as target practice in Russia, as proved by the link I already provided, and the Russian Duma's member specifically called Litvinenko's death the punishment of a traitor, as shown in the quote I provided. The Polonium used to kill him came from a Russian reactor, and it was Russia that sheltered all the suspects from the British authorities that aimed to question them.

You can keep babbling about some supposed conspiracy by Berezovsky, but the only thing that proves is how deeply you are yourself in the Kremlin's payroll. The facts speak for themselves.

Eastern Kazahkstan belongs to Russia?

All of Kazakhstan belongs to Russia, same way all of Belarus belongs to Russia. Same way that all of Kuchma's Ukraine belonged to Russia.

Tough situations call for tough measures (just look at Iraq).

Yes, in Russia's case it called for the FSB to bomb Moscow's apartments, kill hundreds of Russian's own citizens, and blame it on the Chechens, so as to excuse her new bout of genocide in Chechnya.

Separatism is contagious. Just look at Yugoslavia. Tough situations call for tough measures (just look at Iraq).

You vile hypocrites. Separatism calls for "tough measures" in Chechnya, but you are supporting separatism in Abkhazia, in South Ossetia, in Moldova.

Hypocrites and genocidal imperialists!

Separatism only calls for so-called "tough measures" in one case and in one case only -- when it's nothing else but the decoy for a larger nation's imperialism nearby. In that case "separatism" is nothing more but a disguise for aggression imperialism. Same way that Serb Bosnian "separatism" was nothing more but a disguise for Serb imperialism, and Kosovar separatism was nothing more but a disguise for Albanian imperialism.

Same way that Sudetenland separatism was nothing but a flimsy disguise for German Nazi imperialism, nowadays Abkhaz "separatism" and South Ossetian "separatism" and Transdniester "separatism" is nothing but a flimsy disguise for naked Russian imperialism. In Abkhazia you even had to expel half a million Georgians in order to find a majority of ethnic Abkhaz. And now they're less free and less independent than they ever were within Russia, knowing the Kremlin's displeasure whenever they do the slightest thing you don't approve of.

The Chechens on the other hand deserve their national independence. They are a separate nation, as was proven by the fact that you treated them as if are not Russian, and you bombed them back to the stone age. As proven by the fact you no longer allow them to elect their own leaders, but the Kremlin appoints them centrally. Their separatism is not a disguise for another nation's ambition, it's something they wanted themselves, and something that you deprive them unjustly -- because you are merely fascists and imperialists.

As for Ukraine... If the options are NATO Ukraine and split up Ukraine, Russia would take the latter

Yes, in Ukraine's case you'd obviously support same separatism - the same separatism that excused you to murder dozens of thousands of Chechens.

And that's why Russia is an imperialist barbarian, because it thinks that Russia has a right to choose between a NATO Ukraine and a "neutral" Ukraine. It has no such right. It's Ukraine itself that has the right to choose.

"The Georgians were the first ones to act like assholes. They just didn't count on Russians to intervene. "

Oh, being "assholes" that's nice and specific. Russian "interventions", we all know about *those*. We've known them since Sudetenland.


Nothing is Free says:

Litvinenko was a delusional loser. The so-called spy could not even learn English after 6 years in London for God's sake. Had he been born American, he would have been writing books about government fluoride conspiracies and Area 51.

If I am on Kremlin's payroll, then where are my checks?

Just because Kazakhstan is run by an autocrat who is not eager to kiss US/EU ass, doesn't mean he is a Russian puppet.

Except for Livinenko's incoherent ramblings there's been no proof that apartment were carried out by the FSB. No casus belli was required. The Chechens had ***invaded*** Dagestan a month before - a fact overlooked by the Western press when they talk of Putin "starting the second Chechen war". There had already been bloody apartment bombings in Dagestan which enraged the public. The FSB was too disorganized to pull it off without leakig like a sieve (they may be better now, but they are not the machine that KGB was).

Transdniestria never belonged to Moldova before the Soviet Union. There was no virulent nationalism in Russia to cause Chechen separatism. The demagogue Dudayev was the cause of that catastrophe. In Georgia and Moldova's case, the psychotic Gamsahurdia and pan-Romanianism respectively alienated the minorities. The first episodes of violence were not perpetrated by the separatists. I am sure some kind of compromise will be found, but not with the current Georgian president.

Separatism from Russia is in the natural order of things, but separatism anywhere else is Russian imperialism? I think it's a double standard.

Ukraine is an interesting case. I don't think it belongs to anyone. All the money and industry is in the East. I know they are all just filthy Russian/Russophone coal miners opressed by the oligarchs who can't appreciate the finer things in life like sitting in a coffee shop, discussing EU-integrations, viral marketing, atlanticism, making protest banners, etc... But hey, someone has to work, and it is they (who they work for, more like it) who create most of the wealth in Ukraine. So they will decide what they want, no-one else will (including Russia). Russia may offer them a great deal. Perhaps the EU. I know for certain that the US won't.


Aris Katsaris says:

If I am on Kremlin's payroll, then where are my checks?

In your mailbox, I'm guessing.

Just because Kazakhstan is run by an autocrat who is not eager to kiss US/EU ass, doesn't mean he is a Russian puppet.

No, it just all coincidentally happened, I'm quite sure, that e.g. Belarus and Kazakhstan's statements regarding Yanukovych in the days of the Orange revolution were exactly parallel with those of Russia, praising Yanukovych corrupt election.
Here's what Nazarbayev said back then: "Your victory shows that the Ukrainian people have made a choice in favour of the unity of the nation, of democratic development and economic progress."

Except for Livinenko's incoherent ramblings there's been no proof that apartment were carried out by the FSB.

LOL! What nonsense. The FSB were caught by local police and citizens in the city of Ryazan planting a bomb with a detonator in the basement of an apartment building at the address of 14/16 Novosyelov on the night of September 22, 1999.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/03/13/wruss13.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/03/13/ixnewstop.html

The FSB were caught in the *act* of planting such bombs, bombs that tested positive for hexogene. No proof? The FSB was caught *red-handed*.

And it wasn't only Litvinenko that rambled about that, it was also Sergei Yushenkov, another one of the dissidents you murdered. It was Veniamin Ioffe, a human rights activist that you killed. How many more people "rambled" about that, and were later killed?

And I still haven't heard you comment on the target-practice photos of Litvinenko used by the Russian forces, showing how unimportant he was felt by them, this so-called "delusional loser". HERE THEY ARE AGAIN, IN CASE YOU MISSED THEM.

No comments on that? Are you still gonna claim that nobody cared in Russia about Litvinenko enough to kill him?

Transdniestria never belonged to Moldova before the Soviet Union.

So what? Transdniestria was given to Moldova, in exchange for other lands that were taken from Romania and given to Ukraine instead.

I am sure some kind of compromise will be found, but not with the current Georgian president.

Of course, once a Russian lackey takes the position of Georgia's president, I'm sure a "compromise" will be found, that will declare the whole region a Russian protectorate. It'll be a horrible day for the whole region.

Abkhazia is less free than ever it was under Georgian rule. Transnistria is less free than ever it was under Moldovan rule. That's the fate that expects every people and every minority that's stupid to prefer to be Russian protectorate status rather than struggle for advancement in the democracies they live in.

Separatism from Russia is in the natural order of things, but separatism anywhere else is Russian imperialism? I think it's a double standard.

I'm not talking about "natural order of things", am not at all interested in such metaphysics. I'm talking about the concept of national independence, and those huge imperialists next door that pretend their motivations are of a similar bent, but don't convince anyone really.

Transnistria doesn't even *want* to be nationally independent, they've practically applied for membership in the Russian federation. There's no Transnistrian nation, it's just that the 30% of Russians there are using the Russian military's force to grab pieces of the Moldovan state.

Same thing you're gonna use all the Russian minorities everywhere.


jhw2rf8ctg2i says:

"It's very difficult to explain how anyone could ever have thought that Russia would simply "give up" its hostility towards the West and its values and institutions just because it "lost" the Cold War, and could therefore "never go back" to Soviet values. "

The Soviet Union dissolved because at the time of its dissolution none of the leaders of the Soviet Republics shared those "Soviet" values. So why should anyone expect them to ever go back?

Yeltzin was the president Russia at the end of the Soviet era. During the same time, Putin worked for the KGB - a Soviet institution. When Yeltzin took Russia out of the Soviet Union he had hopes that Russia would become more like the western Eruopen countries. These hopes were lost when the oligarcs selected Putin as Yeltzin's successor.


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