Top 10 Ways Dubya is Getting Russia Wrong

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By e-mail, a reader has challenged us to specify what exactly in George W. Bush's policy towards Russia we are complaining about in posts such as this one right here. Fair enough. Publius Pundit is nothing if not responsive to reader input! Click the jump to read our draft top ten list of things Dubya is doing wrong where Russia is concerned and how he could improve (proposed additions/subtractions very much welcome in the comments section).

UPDATE: Hooray! Maybe President Bush is a Publius reader! Look what he just said in Prague to a conference of dissidents: "In Russia, reforms that once promised to empower citizens have been derailed, with troubling implications for democratic development." Way to go! That's our boy, we knew he was in there somewhere! Now follow it up with some policies, sir, and we're on your bandwagon!

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Bush should adopt as his maxim on Russia the phrase: "Actions speak louder than words." Instead of inviting Russia's crazed neo-Soviet dictator to visit his vacation home in Maine, Bush should invite Putin to have lunch with him and Mikhail Khodorkovsksy in Chita, Siberia, on visiting day. Zbigniew Brzezinski has aptly characterized the notion of the Maine holiday.

Bush should use Putin's outrageous recent spate of neo-cold-war actions as the perfect opportunity to mend fences in Europe that were broken over Iraq, and to consolidate the NATO and EU opposition to the rise of dictatorship and security menace in Russia by pledging America's full cooperation and support in their struggle.

Bush should call for trade sanctions on Russia, including rejection from WTO membership and the continuation of the Jackson-Vanik sanctions, until Russia stops providing weapons to Venezuela's dictator, funding to Hamas and Hezbollah, and nuclear technology to Iran.

Bush should demand that Russia extradite Andrei Lugovoi to Britain to stand trial for the murder of dissident Alexander Litvinenko. If Russia won't do it, he should support putting Lugovoi on trial in absentia and expel some Russian diplomats from the Russian embassy in Washington as a form of protest. If Putin says the Russian Constitution won't allow this, Bush should publicly call him a liar.

Bush should instruct Condi Rice to publicly meet with and support key opposition leaders such as Garry Kasparov, Mikhail Kasyanov and Andrei Illarionov. He should tell her to publicize and support the "Other Russia" movement and he himself should visit the grave of Anna Politkvoskaya to lay a wreath there and say some words of comfort and support to her admirers, calling for justice in the investigation of her murder.

Bush should fire the current ambassador to Russia and appoint someone who speaks Russian with native fluency and hates what is happening in Russia now not only because it's bad for the U.S. and the world but, most of all, because it's bad for Russia, a country she (or he) loves dearly. A similar person should occupy the top position on Russia in the U.S. State Department, and there should be someone with similar credentials inside the White House with the President's ear. Andrei Illarionov should be consulted in naming these key role players, and should be a go-to ad hoc advisor on an ongoing basis. If such a measure had been in place, Bush probably wouldn't have hosted known war criminal Vladimir Shamanov at a White House photo op.

Bush should wake up and realize that a new Cold War has begun, and become the world's rhetorical leader in that struggle just as Ronald Reagan was before him, as opposed to repeatedly denying that it is occurring. He should call Russia what is is: A neo-Soviet dictatorship. For example, in today's New York Times, Bush is quoted as follows:

"My message will be Vladimir -- I call him Vladimir -- that you shouldn't fear a missile defense system," Bush said. '"As a matter of fact, why don't you cooperate with us on a missile defense system. Why don't you participate with the United States.'"

Bush should answer his own question, and acknowledge that the reason is because Vladmir wants the capacity to fire offensive missiles at Europe, particularly Eastern Europe, which he wants to re-annex. He should tell Vladimir that's not a good idea, and ask him why he needs to destroy Russia twice in his lifetime. "Isn't once enough?" he should ask. Then, he should start calling him "Mr. Putin."

Bush should much more actively support the pro-West forces in places like Estonia, Georgia and Ukraine, starting by directing more American commerce and PR towards these countries, with regular high-level meetings that focus on Russia's imperialistic moves, especially in the area of weaponized energy. He should call on Russia to cease its cyber attacks on Estonia and its other attempts to undermine the sovereign integrity of these former Soviet slave states. Bush should propose massive new increases in U.S. military spending, just as Ronald Reagan did, not only to meet the neo-Soviet threat but to force Russia into another arms race that it, like the USSR, can't even wage much less win.

Bush should call, as Soviet/Russian dissident and 2008 presidential candidate Vladimir Bukovsky has done, for Russia's ejection from the G-8. Its membership is a sham and disgrace, and Bush has not ony failed to oppose but actually supported it. He should refuse to participate until Russia is out.

On June 16, 2001, at a press conference in Brdo Pri Kranju, Slovenia, Bush was asked about Putin: "Is this a man that Americans can trust?" Bush replied: "I will answer the question. I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country. And I appreciated so very much the frank dialogue." Everyone in the known universe understands that was a mistake to say this, even if it was true, and everyone knows it wasn't even close to being true. Time for a retraction and apology, Mr. President, before your time runs out and you lose the chance. We'd be happy to accept and forgive. We'd admire your courage. If this isn't done, it's going to dog Bush's reputation through all of history as one of the most sensational rhetorical errors ever made by a U.S. president, easily the equal of "I didn't have sexual relations with that woman."

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Comments

Fred Fry says:

What. Nothing about Chechnya?

Just in case you forgot about what the Soviet Union was, take a look here:

Remembering the Soviet Union v.1

La Russophobe says:

Hi Fred, thanks for the comment. Good point! What specifically would you suggest Bush do to oppose Russia's gross human rights violations in Chechnya?

Fred Fry says:

Since Bush has gotten into action in Suden, he should take a stab at the UN inaction on Human Rights in General mentioning Chechnya in a list of countries failing in acceptable human rights.

Bush should threaten to stop throwing money at Russia like it is going to help solve the problem. The US paid to dismantle the KURSK and is paying to secure their nuclear material. If we pay, we should take the damn stuff away, like with Libya.

Dr. Weevil says:

I think you should revise #6. It's not a good idea to have Condoleezza Rice meet "pubicly" with anyone, especially Putin's men.

Arthur Dent says:

Did those evil Russians murder your parents or something, for you to hate them so much? Great collection of your average run-of-the-mill russophobic garbage in any case. But yeah, as others have pointed out, you forgot to whine about Chechnya... So better get to it, the more smear the better.

Cory says:

Top 10 things Putin should do concerning the U.S. -

10. There is this standing policy that Russian Foreign Ministry not try to meddle in other country's domestic affairs. And, for example, it doesn't publish annual Human Rights or Religious Freedom reports... end this policy and expose the human rights abuses perpetrated by the American government, including domestic spying, CIA torture camps in Europe, of course Guantanomo and Abu Ghraib, a ban on the word "Christmas," anti-Semetic attacks in the Pacific Northwest, vaccines that lead to catostraphic rates of autism in the U.S., etc. etc.

9. Move the Black Sea fleet from Ukraine to Syria, as per request of the Syrian government. Russia's role in the Middle East is an expanding one. And here's a big one, set up a Carribbean fleet in Cuba to protect Russian trade vessels in this body of water, citing as a joke perhaps "the history of piracy and pirate-activities in this Carribbean."

8. High energy prices forever -- limit supply.

7. Russia has signed the Kyoto Protocal, yet the U.S. has not -- many people don't know this, so speak about it. Who is the world's worst polluter, emitter of the most greenhouse gases, and consumer of the most fossil fuels... by a long shot? The U.S.

6. Putin should visit the families of criminals executed by American capital punishment, yet exonerated after the fact... and the Illinois governor who exposed this draconian judicial nightmare in the U.S.

5. Why not also meet with Abu Ghraib prisoners and families of the murdered civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan. Russia should lead an internationl effort to finally count the amount of murdered civilians in these two countries... and ask the 'coalition' to provide restitution.

4. Expose the "corporate fascist" (a Cindy Sheehan quote) state that the U.S. is becoming by talking with Sheehan and others who understand that the very, very convenient two-party system we have is NOT a democracy. It's a form of dictatorship, which has recently gotten a corporate fascist twist.

3. Go to the moon. Mine helium-3.

2. Make the SCO a defense organization. India, China, and Central Asia represent enormous human and energy potential that the U.S. is trying to exploit.

1. When Merkel became Chancellor many thought that Germany's Russian-policy would be completely altered. Well, not! Same thing with Prodi and, according to my hunches, same thing with Sarkozy! Continue courting Germany, France, and Italy, three powerhouses that, with Russia and China (and 100 or so other nations against American/Anglo Empire) could finally bring Washington and London to their knees, both ecomomically and politically.

La Russophobe says:

WEEVIL: LOL! Thanks for the correction!

DENT: What did I do, murder your parents for you to hate me so much? Or was your comment your best example of open-minded kindness and human warmth?

CORY: So you think tiny Russia can win a second cold war when giant USSR lost the first? Care to put your money where your mouth is?

hal says:

You go Cory!

George says:

George isn't getting Russia wrong.
Putin is getting America wrong.

Actually I think Putin is using this as a reason to restore his ailing weapons industry.

kgeakin says:

Clearly the author of this absurd article is a moron or on the pentagon payroll.....perhaps both.
Try reading transcripts of Putin's speeches and interviews, not the MSM spin. An entirely different perspective surfaces when you see the context of Putin's statements. He appears to be trying to do what is best for Russia. Unlike the current crop of white house criminals. Oh, and I will take that bet about a future cold war between the US and Russia. Russia has lots of oil and gas and is making nice with China. China will get mad at us for being mean to Russia and evict us.

Cory says:

Kim, I read your blog sometimes and obviously I find many of your arguments laughable, but you are a good writer and obviously very intelligent. So just to answer your question here "So you think tiny Russia can win a second cold war when giant USSR lost the first? Care to put your money where your mouth is?"

I think it's too early to say whether or not there will be another Cold War. But let's pretend.

I firmly believe that the countries I mentioned above (Germany, France, and Italy) will not be on America's side next time, assumming. This could be the tipping-point, maybe, maybe not, who knows.

So it's hard to answer your question. I think with certainty that there will not be a nuclear war because doing so will be suicidal (for makind). Despite the critics, Russia's deterrant is strong, as is America's -- so if there is another Cold War it would be a replay of the first one in that it will remain Cold.

I was born in 1979 so I did not really grow up in the Cold War, but from what I've read Russia has stronger cards to play this time, if it chooses to: energy reserves, the lack of America's "moral authority," and, it cannot be understated, the support of more of the world (vs. the U.S.) as per the BBC Poll of Global Public Opinion (I think released in January '07 - Russia scored better than the U.S. in Latin America, Africa, Asia, and parts of Europe; America remains strong in Eastern/Central Europe, the U.K., Japan, and Australia). The Bush and Clinton regimes have not really created friends outside of these regions, have been to pompous, forceful, and arrogant. They have even estranged a former American president and Nobel Peace Prize winner.

Again, who knows what might happen... it's hard to predict the future, you know. But the best way to go about it is to be open-minded and simply not be anti-Russia on everything, including lets say women's tennis, because it's no different than racism or anti-Semitism.

Russia, like it or not, has sided with the U.S. in every major war, including giving support to the Union vs. the Confederacy after England and France threatened to aid the Confederacy... and its achievements in W.W. II cannot be dismissed, 20 million, 30 million or more Soviets died fighting Hitler and liberating concentration camps while the U.S. and U.K. stood basically idle in the western front for a year and a half (not to overlook the other Allies, but more Soviets died in individual battles in W.W. II than Americans or Britains the entire war).

I can agree to disagree with you because it would be naive not to; people have different opinions, end of sentence.

So keep up the good work.

Cory from Brooklyn, NY

A Chechen says:

Arthur Dent: Actually, they did. Murder my parents, I mean.

Cory: The USA has its faults, and these faults should be addressed. I agree with you on that, fully. However, comparing the scale on which Russia violates human rights with the scale on which the USA violates human rights is simply silly. These two things are on completely different scales of magnitude.

La Russophobe says:

kgeakin: The only moron around here is you my dear sir, and an illiterate one at that. The purpose of this post is to CRITICIZE President Bush, you hopless dimwit. If you wish to suggest that Russia isn't dangerous, then you are AGREEING with Bush's policy up to now, yet you attack him as a criminal. Please, don't drink and post. You're only embarrassing yourself and this blog with your crude, thuglike discourse, utterly devoid of any added value or source material of any kind.

CORY: Very wise. You'd lose that bet. I see you too, are an intelligent and clealy discriminating fellow, I admire your taste in writers!

Russ Mitchell says:

I have a hard time imagining what a "Cold War, MkII" would be about. Geopolitical Influence? Without a credible system behind it? That's just Great-Power politics by another name. Nobody's willingly converting to the Russian way of doing things. I view this as a defensive move by the siloviki to try to establish an unwritten "we don't disturb the Russians, lest they get cranky" axiom among the west's political elites.

But I also have a hard time imagining what Germany would bring to such a table, Cory. They're either NATO, or they're not. And NATO's mostly worthless right now, anyway. If they are, fine -- if not, fine too, they can finally start paying for their own defense. Where would any neo-Cold-War present Russia with the actual possibility for gain?

@Russophobe: your suggestion #5 is directly contrary to how the State Dept. works. People at State are rotated regularly precisely to keep them from getting any real attachment to the countries in which they're serving. (Yes, this is an outdated and nigh-moronic policy.)

P. Aeneas says:

Although I think Cory's critique of American 'criminality' is just the usual boilerplate melodrama, I think he has a point about a new Cold War. This time, we'd be going it pretty much alone. The other free countries of the world are aching to jump into anyone's arms but America's, just like a rebellious teen getting back at her yuppie parents by shacking up with an outlaw biker.

Dan says:

Anyone who believes the Western European nations are remotely close to choosing, in fact if not in rhetoric, Russia over the United States as an ally, particularly if Russia should really manage to make a miraculous recovery in military, economic and demographic strength and relaunch a geostrategic contest, you are simply reading your own dear hopes into an obviously contrary situation. Have none of you noticed the growing discomfort with which the EU nations regard their increasing dependency on Russian energy in the wake of Russia's simply turning off the taps to Ukraine and Georgia, for example?

What I'm concerned about is the fact that the counsel offered here - though I love La Russophobe - and in several other places simply leaves out the extent to which US action should first and foremost be contemplated as a buffer to the European nations' own efforts to resist Russian encroachment, which would be a simple assertion of rational political self-interest on their part. If in fact they are not doing so, this is extremely worrisome. History has shown Russia to be a menace to Europe and the civilization to its own south since it managed to evict the final khanates. Go back and read a history of the Napoleonic Wars - I recommend "The Congress of Vienna" - for actual information on how Europe has historically regarded its Russian neighbor, and how the relevant parties have acted the way they do towards eachother.

The fact of the matter is Russia is seeking to become a fascist state - a thing that it, under its long Tsarist experience, taught the rest of the world. If you have not infered this from available history yet, you are someone who is simply very bad at geopolitics and history, the way many people are bad, say, at math or singing. But the reasonable response in light of that fact is Suck it up, Sit down, and Shut up.

La Russophobe says:

RUSS: Well, since this is something that Dubya can alter with the stroke of a pen, it's a perfect starting place for his efforts to get on the right track. But of course he would also have to get past the idea of handing out ambassadorial posts as political rewards to favored sons. However, in so doing, he could define himself as a real statesman, and start climbing out of the whole he's dug himself in Iraq.

Candide says:

I think the original list of '10 things' was hopelessly outdated, misguided and mostly silly. Little did I know about the silly part. But 'Cory' came along to show us all what really silly is like, such as:

"7. Russia has signed the Kyoto Protocal, yet the U.S. has not -- many people don't know this, so speak about it. Who is the world's worst polluter, emitter of the most greenhouse gases, and consumer of the most fossil fuels... by a long shot? The U.S."

Obviously, you never been to Russia, Cory. Russian cities are polluted beyond anything you can imagine in the West. First thing you'd notice upon arriving in Europe or US from Russia, how clear the air is.

"1. When Merkel became Chancellor many thought that Germany's Russian-policy would be completely altered. Well, not! Same thing with Prodi and, according to my hunches, same thing with Sarkozy!"

You can employ as many exclamation signs as you like, Cory, the simple truth is that all new European leaders are much more pro-US and much more contra-Russia, then the previous ones. If Prodi, Merkel and Sarkozy agree on restraining anything, that would be Russia, not the US. In fact, the changes in European attitudes is exactly what makes Russia so nervous.

Dan says:

I think the list is pretty good myself.

As for Bush's "I looked him the eye, etc." comment, I'm conflicted as to how to interpret it.

It does resemble the quandry we are forced into, not least by the mental atmosphere of Corys around the globe that predominate to such an unhappy degree. That is to say, Bush cannot very well say, Yes, I met Putin, and he is a typical Mongol barbarian - of course he would be, he isn't goddamn Dostoevsky. Just he cannot say, Of course we are at war with Islam, because Islam is in a state of war with us; or, Of course the Iraqis can't get it right unless someone kills some generally visible proportion of their population - what, we're supposed to teach this ancient dog new tricks? They love that shit!

The president of the country that hosts the UN and spent most of that institution's history trying to prevent the onslaught of Moscow-controlled Communism from blotting out it and most of the signatory countries cannt very elegantly stand up and say true things like these.

Of course, everyone is free to say these things about Bush and Americans, obviously. And we even have that poster above, the one born in 1979, that little parrot who's read things, mimicking his enemies, afire with the idea that he's a moralist! Ha!

Man, this sure will make great reading for students of history born 200 years or so from now, presuming things remain sufficiently Anglo-American. God I envy them.

Fred Fry says:

"kgeakin says:

Hmmm. Maybe you can tell us where Russia is currently pointing their nukes now? You see, Putin did make a joke in that he inferred that he is not already pointing his nukes at europe already.

PUTIN's RUSSIA IS BAD. The only thing stopping him from taking back the Soviet states is America.

La Russophobe says:

CANDIDE: Then give us your updates! Our list is only a draft, help us finalize it!

Cory says:

I would like to thank Kim and others for their comments.

I wrote my list hastily in an Internet cafe, confronting a clock, really (I had purchased 15 minutes)... and I guess I left out a bunch of stuff... and should have been more descriptive in other circumstances, but anyway.

My general point is that America's house is not in order for reasons 10 through 1, plus the other reasons failed to cite. As Kim and others have noted, Russia's house is not in order either. No argument there. In my opinion, the U.S.'s moral violations are fiercer than Russia's. Others choose to disagree and think Russia is a worse violator of human rights. To be fair, the answer is probably a toss-up.

The endgame in my opinion is: if your house is not in order, you have no authority to ask that others houses are. This could be a technicality, but it's fair.

So sorry for being so circumventing, long, and boring - but I'm just trying to say that none of my 10 recommendations for Putin are legitimate because it is better for countries to not meddle in the domestic policies of others. Same thing for Kim's recommendations.

I am glad I got that of my chest, because I didn't want to seem like a closed-minded anti-American since I plan to post here on and off. I consider myself and my slight pro-Putin stance as fair and realistic.

And just one final thing... if you read over Bush's Czech Republic speech it was not a scathing attack on Russia and not symbolic of any new firm policy in my opinion (Cheney's Baltic speech for example was far stronger and this really doesn't compare to Putin's strong attacks in Munich, at the Victory Parade, and at his press conference with the Greek President last week)... everyone was expecting something from Bush and he just gave the littlest possible to save face... here is the speech:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/06/20070605-8.html

Yours Truly,

Cory

Aris Katsaris says:

The endgame in my opinion is: if your house is not in order, you have no authority to ask that others houses are.

Did you say the same thing when Putin and his Russophile mobs were trying to bully Estonia into submission? Just to determine how consistent you're being with this attitude.

It's true that the Bush administration's utter moral decadence has been a great detriment to the credibility of the honour of what we (inaccurately and vaguely) call "West". That's been Bush's single worst contribution to world history. His administration has supported torture and war crimes.

But there's a difference between a country that strikes the occasional third-world nation out of some colonial imperialistic delusion that they're gonna "civilize" the savages, and there's a difference between a country that's fascistic internally and imperialistic against *all* her neighbours externally,

The rough difference is the same difference as that between the British Empire and the Nazi Germany. The latter is the worse imperialism, and the worse tyranny, without question.

British empire needed to merely abandon India and her imperial delusion -- same as America nowadays needs to abandon Iraq and *its* imperial delusions.

But Putin's Russia, same as Hitler's Germany, are fascist internally and threaten to devour *all* their neighbors. Genocide and tyranny waits internally, submission or war (cold or hot) are the only possibilities for her neighbours.

And as a sidenote:

10. There is this standing policy that Russian Foreign Ministry not try to meddle in other country's domestic affairs.

Are you bloody INSANE??? Russia has divided Georgia in three pieces, it has stolen a huge chunk of Moldova, it actively supported Yanukovich in Ukraine. Are you insane or just such a liar that you don't even care about maintaining the slightest bit of credibility anymore???

There's no single country in the world that interferes *more* in other countries's domestic affairs than Russia does. America doesn't even do half the interference that Russia does in this matter.

Putinista says:

Kim

Can you please stop revealing our evil plans? How are we supposed to take over the world when there are people like you standing in the way?

La Russophobe says:

PUTINISTA: As a typical Russophile, you have failed to grasp the simple and clear thesis of my writing. It is not that the Kremlin is seeking to take over the world, it is that the Kremlin is seeking to destroy Russia, as many other Kremlins in the past have done (indeed, it's a theme throughout Russian history). I wish to stop this from happening. The current Kremlin's policies are as delusional (indeed, insane) as those of Nikolai or Lenin, and will lead to the same result, one that is not in the interests of the U.S. or any other country, much less Russia.

Russia is no more capable of taking over the world than of selling an automobile on the world market (or "electing" someone president who's not a madman).

Aris Katsaris says:

When the Putinistas can't actually argue with facts, they just mock you. Unless you live in Russia, in which case they shoot you.

Glad I don't live in Russia.

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