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Russian Hypocrisy Knows No Bounds

Filed under: Americas ~ Europe ~ Russia ~ Venezuela

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Yup, that's Hugo Chavez and Moscow Mayor Yuri Luzhkov laughing and holding hands like lovers whilst they gaze upon a spectacle of Russian folk dancing as part of Chavez's state visit to Moscow. Do you dare to imagine how Russians would react if Chechen warlord Shamil Basayev (or, for that matter, exiled oligarch Boris Berezovsky) had been invited to visit the White House, stopped by New York City on the way, and been photographed cuddling with Mayor Michael Bloomberg under similar circumstances?

How is it possible that Russians can wail to high heaven about America getting involved in Russia's "sphere of influence" in Eastern Europe (installing missile defense systems and inviting Ukraine and Georgia into NATO) and yet have no problem whatsoever providing massive quantities of AK-47s and attack aircraft to Hugo's dicatorship in South America? Hasn't Russia ever heard of the Monroe Doctrine? Does Russia really think it can have its cake and eat it too, even though it's economy is 1/12th the size of America's and it lacks any allies remotely comparable to the NATO group?

To put it simply, this is exactly the same "have your cake and eat it too" behavior we saw from the USSR, the same behavior that brought the USSR to ultimate destruction. And despite that lesson, the victims of the the USSR's brainwashing, like "president" Vladimir Putin, are so filled with anti-American venom that they are prepared to do the whole thing over again, and to have Russia go the same way the USSR went.

How depressing is that? Click the jump for more inspiring Chavez photo ops.


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Daryn says:

Kim - well said! I note that Chavez noted during this visit: "I want to recall Lenin's work, 'What to do' in which he described imperialism as the last stage of capitalism. The world is returning to this idea." (see Retuers article - http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL2881648020070628?feedType=RSS&pageNumber=1)


Al Fin says:

If Hugo had an IQ above 90, he might be dangerous. He is simply too stupid to destroy much more than his own country, although he wants to do much more.

If Fidel had had all that oil at a time like this, he could have done immense damage to the entire western hemisphere.

The shame of it all is the damage to Venezuela and its people.

As for Russia, it is a dying land. Nothing can save Russia now. The importance of Russia is the mineral/oil wealth and all those nukes that need to be recycled into nuclear fuel.


Jay Sunshine says:

The analogy between Chavez and Basayev is flawed. Chechnya is a recognized part of a sovereign Russia while Chavez is the head of a (granted antagonistic) sovereign nation in his own right. A more appropriate Russian equivalent would be Ukranian President Viktor Yushchenko, who has been at the White House. http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/Archive/2005/Apr/05-535779.html

No need for strained analogies when illustrating the absurdity of the Neo-Soviet regime in Moscow, they create enough on their own.


RTLM says:

I had no idea Saddam/Castro were that short.

/Maybe the pics were staged -


La Russophobe says:

JAY SUNSHINE:

I reject your suggestion that Chavez and Yushchenko are even remotely analagous either in actual fact or in the way they are perceived by their enemies. In fact, it strikes me as uncivilized to say so, and rather hypocritical that you attack my analogy as untenable whilst your own is so obviously bogus. I dare you to find public statements made about Russia by Yushchenko which are even remotely similar to those made about the US by Chavez, and to document weapons being provided by the US to Ukraine at similar levels to what Russia is doing in Venezuela. I dare you to document anti-democratic moves by Yushchenko which are even remotely comparable to those of Chavez, and I dare you to show me evidence that Russians hate Yushchenko (even irrationally) in the same way and to the same extent as Americans (quite properly) hate Chavez. Plus, I'd dearly love to see a photo of Yuschenko playing footsie with Bloomburg. Have you got one? I believe the Berezovsky and Basayev are the appropriate names to drop when wishing to describe for Russians how Americans feel about Chavez, and don't think you know enough about Russia if you think Yushchenko would accomplish that. I think it's would be a tragic error to tell Russians that Americans have only the same kind of objections to Chavez as they have to Yushchenko. Simply put, Yuschenko hasn't said he wants to team up with the rest of the world to destroy the Great Satan in Russia and, to their credit, the people of Russia don't think he has.

Meanwhile, I'm not suprised to see that you've missed the point, which is whether Russia is any position to alienate the United States and whether Russians are being hypocrites in seeking to penetrate the US sphere of influence whilst waxing indignant about US penetrations of Russia's. The point of this post is not to argue that Russians can't protest when the US meets with somebody they don't like, it's that they can't do that AND meet with people the US hates at the same time -- not only because it's hypocritical but because they aren't powerful enough to pull it off, and it's therefore self-destructive.

Rhetoric like yours, which could easily have come from the Kremlin, would only help Russians believe their current policy is the correct one, not to understand how meeting with Chavez affects Americans. In that way, it helps them suffer.

I also don't care for characterizing Putin's Kremlin as "absurd." I don't find it the least bit funny that as many as 1 million Russians are lost from the population every year under it, or that it is provoking a new cold war with aid to Venezuela, Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran, or that Russians work for $3/hour on average. I think it's a tragedy, not a comedy.


elmer says:

Wow!

For the life of me, I, too, don't see any analogy between Yushchenko of Ukraine, and Chavez of Venezuela.

At the most, President Yushchenko has called on Russia to be a good neighbor to Ukraine, rather than an "older brother" (referring to the historical reference by which Russia, whether tsarist or soviet, has characterized its chauvinism and imperialism towards Ukraine).

President Yushchenko has also called for democratic development in Ukraine, and has specifically stated that the "managed democracy" of Russia is not for Ukraine.

This hardly puts Ukraine or Yushchenko in a situation analogous to Venezuela.

Instead, Russia has been conducting trade wars and anti-immigration labor wars against Ukraine, and Georgia, and Poland, and everyone else, and has been threatening Ukraine with its "gas" politics, in an attempt to re-assert dominance over Ukraine.


Jay Sunshine says:

I was not saying a thing about that point you made concerning Russians concerning Russian hyprocrisy. I subscribe to Miliukov's observation that Russians lack a well-defined sense of hypocrisy that would be discernable to a Western observer. Someone offended by Russian hypocrisy should be just as offended by Japanese traditionalism, they are as intrinsic to their cultures as the amorphous "American Dream" is to ours.
Of course, Yushchenko does not make the same ridiculous statements towards Russia, which Chavez makes towards the U.S. Leaders committed to secular-democratic states, governed by the rule of law do not generally characterize those they are less than friendly with in the terms which Chavez uses in referring to the United States. That is the difference between nations in the embraces of freedom (the U.S. and Ukraine)and thugocracies like Russia and Venezuela.
Without need to say it allowed, a free, growing and prosperous Ukraine is a greater threat to Russia than Venezuala could ever pose to the United States. A Ukraine in NATO is even greater. Just as it is quite logical for Russia to continue to fund and support their puppet-boy Yanukovich, I agree that it is imperative that the United States should do more (anything, as opposed to nothing) to support the internal opposition in Venezuela.
On the subject of missing points, mine was quite simply that Chechnya is not, nor has ever been a sovereign nation. Hosting the leader of an internal separatist movement is not the same as playing footsie with the thug leader of a recognized nation.
I totally agree that my statement could have come from the Kremlin and take that as quite the compliment. Russians do believe their current course is the right one. They would equate NATO expansion into Ukraine as being on the same level as their Moscow-Tehran-Caracas axis and in so doing, they would fail to recognize the evil they are perpetrating.
If a comedy is tragedy plus time, then Russia is one of the greatest comedies in human history. Antagozing the West to divert attention from the millions of people dying and sub-standard conditions they live in is not a new phenomenon in Russia, its been going on since Peter the Great. That their people continue to support such nonsense is quite absurd. That we do nothing to confront the moral evil of their society (a la "Dutch") is equally absurd and a point we both can agree on.


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