Annals of Neo-Soviet Duplicity

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Two very interesting events occurred recently, events which are even more interesting when viewed in juxtaposition.

First, America proposed installing a ballistic missile defense system in Eastern Europe. In response, Russia opposed the installation and proposed locating the system in Azerbaijan -- a region heavily within the Russian sphere of influence. This implies that Russia is interested in helping the U.S. and NATO allies assure their strategic security against their enemies and that it is suggesting it can be trusted over the long term not to undermine such a base.

Second, as Vladimir Socor of the Jamestown Foundation's Eurasia Daily Monitor writes:

Russia abstained in the UN Security Council's September 20 vote to prolong the mandate of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan, a NATO-led operation. This is the first time since 2001 that Russia withheld its approval from an allied operation (U.S.-led Enduring Freedom and NATO's ISAF) in Afghanistan. Concurrently, Moscow indicated again that it tolerates the U.S.-led air base in Kyrgyzstan -- that supports operations in Afghanistan -- conditionally and temporarily. Moscow's abstention in the Security Council has no significant consequences on the practical level. Symbolically, however, it hits at what the United States and NATO define as a core interest and top operational priority. Politically, it signifies yet another warning that Russia is prepared to challenge U.S. and NATO interests and hinder their policies almost anywhere in Eurasia to the maximum feasible extent.

Isn't that interesting? It hardly seems that Russia's actions in the Security Council verify its ability to stand behind its Azerbaijan proposal. Given that, the U.S. and NATO would have be be raving lunatics to give serious consideration to Russia's proposal and, thankfully, it seems they have no such intentions. In actuality, we ought to be quite insulted that the malignant little troll who presides over the Kremlin thought we might be stupid enough to fall for a gambit like this.

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Russian says:

Kim, as always you are trying to judge about the things you do not understand quite well.

Radar in Czech Republic will be directed so that it will be screening Russia airspace up to the Urals including Russian missiles lanching sites. It wiil enable the uSA to obtain full and more precise data about the missiles and aircrafts in Russian air space than by using satellite based radars only.
This is why Russia proposed jointly operation of the Azerbaijan radar which is directed to the South (Middle East, Iran and Africa), and can not "see" the Russian air space.
And this is why the USA refused Azerbaijan and insists on the radar in the Czech Republic.

Missiles base in Poland can be easily remodelled into IBCMs silos.
This system not only chalenges Russian interests but undermines Russian security.

So, if the USA is chalenging Russia's intersts in her own neighbourhood, what is wrong about Russia is being prepared to challenge U.S. and NATO interests and hinder their policies almost anywhere in Eurasia to the maximum feasible extent.?

La Russophobe says:

RUSSIAN:

You are an utter moron. I didn't say ONE SINGLE WORD in this post about whether the U.S. missile defense system was targeted towards Russia. The point of this post is that Russia claimed to be acting in the interests of U.S. national security by suggesting a different location. If you are right, THEN RUSSIA WAS LYING ABOUT ITS DESIRE and made the suggestion specifically TO UNDERMINE American security by denying the "view" you claim American would get. And of course, this is the case, as shown by Russia's desire to undermine NATO at the U.N.

If Russia views the missile defense system as a threat, then it should do all it can to stop the threat. I SAID NOTHING TO THE CONTRARY IN THIS POST, you clueless goat-brained imbecile. If you won't read my actual words, then I'll simply ignore you from now on.

All I'm saying in this post is that Russia hates NATO and wants to undermine it, not to be its partner, and that NATO should realize this. YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN ONE SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY. Russia has every right to try to block the system, and NATO has every right to install it. The nations of Eastern Europe, previously enslaved and tortured by Russia, have ever reason to erect safeguards to their future security. It's clear that Russia intends to try to recreate the Soviet empire, and it's clear that NATO exists to stop that. If you are suggesting that Russia would be a reliable partner for NATO as long as NATO allowed Russia to maintain dangerous military threats towards Europe without defense, you are singing the pathetic siren song of the USSR and will meet the same fate. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on ME. I realize it's frustrating for you that the world is on to Russia's disgusting game, but c'est la vie.

Frankly, I think your point is completely insane. The only reason Russia should fear a DEFENSIVE missile system is if it wants to FIRE MISSILES at Europe. If it does, then it is obviously NATO's enemy and we must fight and destroy Russia just as we fought and destroyed the USSR. If you think Russia, without allies and with a tiny fraction of the USSR's power, can do better than the USSR in such a fight and should provoke it as Putin is doing, then you are peanut-brained simpleton who is more dangerous to Russia than any foreign foe, an your patronizing comment betrays your neo-Soviet inability to deal with reality, full of hubris and confrontation totally without any actual force to stand behind it.

I'm laughing at you and your gibberish.

Veten Oglu says:

Some people just want to understand. When the USA says it has some security problems it is not definitely with Iran or some other country. The only security threat to the USA is Russia which again started developing his strengh.
So of course the USA would accept the proposal of Russian side. People beleive it the USA's problem is not Iran or some other muslim country. The most radical muslims are waiting for the command of CIA or US president in order take action. However, Russia is not.
Then why to use Gabala RLS in Azerbaijan. In order to gain the support of Azeri side? the USA has to help Azerbaijan with the Nagorno Karabakh issue, which has never been in the interests of US side.

George says:

Russian,

Apart from anything else, it really is nonsense to say "Missiles base in Poland can be easily remodelled into IBCMs silos."

It is not commonly reported that the US missile systems in question works on the "hit-to-kill" principle. The (ten)missiles do not carry any warheads, but destroy other missiles by achieving a direct hit, so they are of a totally different order of size to ICBMs, and the missile site in question would bear no resemblance to an ICBM site.

Hence, when Putin talks about targeting Europe with more nuclear missiles and says that it is "in response" to American proposals, he is lying. Our response must of course be to threaten to target Russia again with nuclear cruise and Pershing missiles in real response to his provocation.

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