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Sexist America by the Numbers

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Never let it be said that this blog lets America off the hook in criticizing the need for democratic reform. With that in mind, let's challenge America to be fairer to the fairer sex (even within the civil rights movement, women were denied a place at the table by those who purported to struggle for fairness):


Share women hold on the list of 400 wealthiest Americans


Share women hold of the U.S. Senate


Share women hold in the U.S. House of Representatives

17.4 - 19.8 - 19.9%

Global Average for female representation in parliament -- European average -- Americas average


Fraction by which U.S. median male incomes exceed median female incomes


Share women hold of the U.S. population

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JJ says:

Those numbers don't mean that USA is sexist. Men just outdo women at everything. Feel free to disagree, but you can't give me any example that proves me wrong.

La Russophobe says:


Are you suggesting that men are better able to represent the interests of women in parliament than women are? Why is the U.S. average for women in parliament lower that that of the Americas, Europe and the world? Are you suggesting that American women are especially inferior?

That is what white men said about black men before they let them play sports. Now, black men dominate white men in every sport. No wonder white men didn't want them in the game! Ever heard of Jackie Robinson?

Women weren't allowed to vote until 1920 and were denied access to higher education until much later, so even if what you say were true it would only demonstrate a long history of oppression.

But it's not even close to being true.

Here's an example that proves you wrong:

Here's another:


Women are beginning to dominate small business, the only playing field where they've been given the ability to play so far in business. Women are now beginning to dominate enrollment in universities. They have elected their first speaker of the House and will soon elect their first president. They live longer than men (dominating them at the basic task of survival) and they are taking power in the USA. You'd be well advised to consider a less confrontational attitude unless you want your son to be viewed by the women in power as some ape-like men now view women -- i.e., inferior and hence to be ignored.

By the way, four of the six contributors to this blog are female.


2006 men's FIFA world cup: US men's team places last in its group, eliminated before second round. 2007 women's FIFA world cup: US women's team places first in its group and wins its quarter-final match against England, will play Brazil or Australia in semi-finals.

This year American women have taken 2 grand slam tennis titles. American men haven't even reached the finals in a single grand slam event.

Suzy B. says:

On May 14, 2006, a perfect game was pitched in the Oakfield, New York Little League. Perfect as in 18 consecutive strikeouts. The pitcher's name? Katie Brownell. She's the only female player in the league.

On April 13, 2007, the Independent reported that women will soon be able to produce sperm cells from their bone marrow, making men obsolete.

CPK says:

JJ is certainly right that men are far better than women at many things. It's a pity he didn't have the courage to list at least a few examples, though, so I will: There are far more men in prison than women, and all the great mass murderers of history (Mau, Amin, Stalin, Hitler) as well as the serial killers, have been men. All of the world's worst wars have been instigated and fought by men, who are far better at bashing each other's brains in (boxing, football, etc.) than women. It's a breathtaking list of achievements, really, and small wonder that our world is such a paradise because of it.

Artfldgr says:

Women are beginning to dominate small business, the only playing field where they've been given the ability to play so far in business.

A lot of those businesses are the men putting the business in their wives names, and a lot are because of the special laws. they are not doing it on equal ground, they have some searious legs up.

8a/SDB status provides lots of stuff if you are a woman, or a minority. and if they put the 8a business in a hud zone they get a bunch more perks, and dont forget 5x5 as well. so ther reason this group is grouwing is that its getting lots of perks and competing against them is not on a fair field. pretty much the whole thing amounts to perks for everyone but white males. so your attribution is wrong.. lower electric, lower taxes, higher grant amounts, lots of federal programs, mentorships..

basketball was originally dominated by jewish men... and sports end up dominated by the races who are the most disadvantaged, which was why in their day the jews dominated basketball.

and as far as the salary thing: thats to the independent womens forum, a feminist group...

the issue is complex, but the original 77 cents figure was due to a math error. there are a lot of other problems with it as well. but there isnt space here. when the figures account for age, years of wark and such, the salaries are the same. As a group, when men earn more, their wives do not work as hard, this skews the totals as well. Women in this situation have a choice and they often take that choice to work part time, or time share so as to be with children.

the current laws we have put in place were first put in place inthe soviet union by lenin.they have caused problems ever since.

the mathematcial way to discivering if there is discrimination is based on the concept that we are both the same, with the same interests, the same willingness to accept risk, to take chances,etc. but this isnt true. women tend to enter careers in which its safe.

you can also here is a big factor:

"About 5.1 percent of women (including 5.6 percent of women aged 20 to 24) were absent in the average week, compared with 2.7 percent of men."

if you want to play with numbers why is that the percentage of on the job injuries and deaths is more than 90% male..

5275 men died on the job, 428 women in 2006

discrimination that men work jobs that get them killed and doing so pushes women out of those jobs? that men get a premium for taking jobs that are deadly.

were denied access to higher education until much later

do some reasearch, just prior to the baby boom women represented over 40% of college students...

go research emmy noether... she was able to take the math courses, even though women werent allowed.. in general when people wanted to do things they did... the barrier to entry meant that the best and the hardest working got in.

emmy is responsible for the mathematics behind super symmetry... she is not celebrated as a hero by feminists... why? because she did it on her own...

most people couldnt go to the schools then, there were no sociallist institutions, and school choice was up to parents. however, the truth is that parents often, even tody, think their daughters need a leg up. and so they were highly represented.

but the baby boom changed that..

the feminsts are communist socialists... the point being to get the population down to make it vulnerable..

"Feminism, Socialism, and Communism are one in the same, and Socialist/Communist government is the goal of feminism." - Catharine A. MacKinnon, Toward a Feminist Theory of the State (First Harvard University Press, 1989), p.10

its the feminists that are touting that we must be treated unequally to be equal.

they have also convinced women to put things off till they are infertile..

their heroes are people like margret sanger who was a eugenicist.. she is celebrated because abortion as population control as a soft way to exterminate lumpen proletariat, and such.

"The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." -- Margaret Sanger, letter to Clarence Gamble, Dec. 10,1939. - Sanger manuscripts, Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College.



In a recent book, Red Feminism: American Communism and the Making of Women's Liberation, (2002) feminist historian Kate Weigand states: "ideas, activists and traditions that emanated from the Communist movement of the forties and fifties continued to shape the direction of the new women's movement of the 1960s and later."(154)

In fact, Weigand, a lecturer at Smith College, shows that modern feminism is a direct outgrowth of American Communism. There is nothing that feminists said or did in the 1960's-1980's that wasn't prefigured in the CPUSA of the 1940's and 1950's. Many second-wave feminist leaders were "red diaper babies," the children of Communists.

Communists pioneered the political and cultural analysis of woman's oppression. They originated women's studies, and advocated public daycare, birth control, abortion and even children's rights. They forged key feminist concepts such as "the personal is the political" and techniques such as "consciousness raising."

In the late 1940's, CPUSA leaders realized that the labor movement was becoming increasingly hostile to Communism. They began to focus on women and African Americans. They hoped "male supremacy" would "bring more women into the organization and into the fight against the domestic policies of the Cold War." (80)

Communist women who made up 40% of the party wanted more freedom to attend party meetings. After the publication of "Women Against Myth" in 1948, the CPUSA initiated a process of "re-educating" men that we recognize only too well today.

For example, in the party newspaper "The Daily Worker" a photo caption of a man with a young child read, "Families are stronger and happier if the father knows how to fix the cereal, tie the bibs and take care of the youngsters." (127)

The Party ordered men who didn't take the woman question seriously to complete "control tasks involving study on the woman question." In 1954 the Los Angeles branch disciplined men for "hogging discussion at club meetings, bypassing women comrades in leadership and making sex jokes degrading to women." (94)

A film Salt of the Earth, which critic Pauline Kael called "Communist propaganda", portrayed women taking a decisive role in their husbands' labor strike. "Against her husband's wishes, Esperanza became a leader in the strike and for the first time forged a role for herself outside of her household... [her] political successes persuaded Ramon to accept a new model of family life." (132) Portrayals of strong assertive successful women became as common in the Communist press and schools, as they are in the mass media today.

Communist women formalized a sophisticated Marxist analysis of the "woman question." The books In Women's Defense (1940) by Mary Inman, Century of Struggle (1954) by Eleanor Flexner and The Unfinished Revolution (1962) by Eve Merriam recorded women's oppression and decried sexism in mass culture and language. For example, Mary Inman argued that "manufactured femininity" and "overemphasis on beauty" keeps women in subjection (33).

The founder of modern feminism, Betty Frieden relied on these texts when she wrote The Feminine Mystique (1963). These women all hid the fact that they were long-time Communist activists. In the 1960, their daughters had everything they needed, including the example of subterfuge, to start the Women's Liberation Movement.

Feminism's roots in Marxist Communism explain a great deal about this curious but dangerous movement. It explains:

Why the " woman's movement" hates femininity and imposes a political-economic concept like "equality" on a personal, biological and mystical relationship.

Why the "women's movement" also embraces equality of race and class.

Why they want revolution ("transformation") and have a messianic vision of a gender-less utopia.

Why they believe human nature is infinitely malleable and can be shaped by indoctrination and coercion.

Why they engage in endless, mind-numbing theorizing, doctrinal disputes and factionalism.

Why truth for them is a "social construct" defined by whomever has power, and appearances are more important than reality.

Why they reject God, nature and scientific evidence in favour of their political agenda.

Why they refuse to debate, don't believe in free speech, and suppress dissenting views.

Why they behave like a quasi-religious cult, or like the Red Guard.

or that men die earlier than women.

Artfldgr says:

Friedan was first exposed to socialist thinking while an undergraduate at Smith College in the late 1930s (pp. 39-49).

• Beginning in 1940, while still a junior at Smith, Friedan became an outspoken advocate of the Popular Front, a pro-Communist umbrella that embraced a broad range of radical groups (p. 10).

• While studying psychology at UC-Berkeley 1942-43, Friedan was a member of the Young Communist League (p. 93).

• From 1943 to 1946, Friedan worked as journalist at the Federated Press, a left-wing news service established by Socialist Party members (p. 102).

• In 1944, Friedan requested to join the American Communist Party. According to her FBI file, Friedan was turned down because "there already were too many intellectuals in the labor movement" (p. 93).

• From 1946 to 1952, Friedan worked as a journalist (some would say "propagandist" is the more accurate term) at the radical United Electrical, Radio, and Machine Workers of America. According to historian Ronald Schatz, this labor union was "the largest Communist-lead institution of any kind in the United States." (p. 133).

Horowitz also documents Friedan's numerous relationships with Communist Party operatives, including her romantic involvement with physicist David Bohm while a student at Berkeley (p. 92). Bohm would later invoke the Fifth Amendment while testifying in front of the House Un-American Activities Committee, and leave the United States shortly thereafter.

It is important to note that Horowitz did not intend to write his book as an exposé. Indeed, throughout the book, Horowitz is clearly sympathetic to Friedan's feminist objectives.

But this much is clear: beginning in 1940, Betty Friedan became a committed and articulate advocate for the American socialist movement.

It is true that after 1952, her views become less strident. But Friedan's basic outlook still reflected the socialist worldview of capitalist oppression and female victimization.

Take this quote from Frederick Engel's famous 1884 essay, The Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State:

"The emancipation of women becomes possible only when women are enabled to take part in production on a large, social scale, and when domestic duties require their attention only to a minor degree."

Engel was saying that equality of the sexes would only happen when women abandoned their homes and become worker-drones.

Friedan copied that sentence into her notes sometime around 1959, while she was doing her research for The Feminine Mystique (p. 201).

That revolutionary passage would become the inspiration and guiding principle for Friedan's book, and eventually for the entire feminist movement.

Margret meades work has recently been discredited. she made most of it up. however she was one that tagged freidan

but it was franz boas that tagged meade. meade was one of his proteges... but franz was a spy. confirmed in the venona transcripts and from soviet archives.

Mead studied at Barnard College, where she met the great anthropologist Franz Boas, who became her mentor and her advisor when she attended graduate school at Columbia University, where she earned advanced degrees in psychology and anthropology

yup... the same columbia where the marxist group called the frankfurt school took up residence. the history is so freaky around that area, there was lots of help from the soviets.

its as if they built a long term cultural bomb with the idea that they would pick up the pieces. but they fell first, and so the device they let go and released is still plodding on because there is nothing to stop it.

there is always some front that appeals, and thats the game..

Artfldgr says:

"Many co-operatives are finding themselves short of labor. It has become necessary to arouse the great mass of women who did not work in the fields before to take their place on the labor front." Mao

"major social transformations are impossible without ferment among the women." Karl Marx

History of the Womans Movement (notice the URL)

"No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one." -- Interview with Simone de Beauvoir, "Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma," Saturday Review, June 14, 1975, p.18

"In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them" -- Dr. Mary Jo Bane, feminist and assistant professor of education at Welleslry College and associate director of the school's Center for Research on Woman

"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the Women's Movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." -- Sheila Cronan, "Marriage," in Koedt, Levine, and Rapone, eds., Radical Feminism, p. 219.

"The first condition of the liberation of the wife is to bring the whole female sex back into public industry, and this in turn demands the abolition of the monogamous family as the economic unit of society." [Engels, p.67]

"Being a housewife is an illegitimate profession... The choice to serve and be protected and plan towards being a family-maker is a choice that shouldn't be. The heart of radical feminism is to change that" -- Vivian Gornick, feminist author, University of Illinois, "The Daily Illini," April 25, 1981

"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman." -- Catharine MacKinnon

"Women are the creatures of an organized tyranny of men, as the workers are the creatures of an organized tyranny of idlers." -- Eleanor Marx, The Woman Question

"Destroy the family, you destroy the country." -- V.I. Lenin

"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism." -- Nikita Kruschev

"We must declare openly what is concealed, namely, the political function of the school...It is to construct communist society." -- V.I. Lenin

"The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to Socialism." -- Karl Marx

"From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need" -- Karl Marx

“Democracy is the road to socialism.” -- Karl Marx

"The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist." -- (National NOW Times, Jan. 1988)

"The most merciful thing a large family can do to one of its infant members is to kill it." -- Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race, (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within." -- Josef Stalin

“Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex.” -- Valerie Solana, SCUM founder (Society for Cutting Up Men.)

"If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males." -- Mary Daly, former Professor at Boston College, 2001

and finally, the point of your post is that the future is female.. i wonder where that idea came from..

"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race." -- Sally Miller Gearhart, The Future - If There Is One - Is Female

La Russophobe says:


"A lot of those businesses are the men putting the business in their wives names.

Please document your claim or retract it and apologize.

I've warned you before that you are abusing your right to comment on the blog by failing to exercise restraint in the amount of text you publish and the number of times you comment in succession. Nobody is reading what you write and it discourages others from commenting. If you want to be taken seriously, try to focus and organize your thoughts into a smaller space.

Please try to restrain your impulses in the future, and please try to document your factual claims. If you fail to do so your comments are subject to deletion.

JJ says:

La Russophobe says:

"Are you suggesting that men are better able to represent the interests of women in parliament than women are? Why is the U.S. average for women in parliament lower that that of the Americas, Europe and the world? Are you suggesting that American women are especially inferior?"

I'm not saying american women are worse than any other women in the world. These other countries are just sexist against men. The reason why there are more women in other countries parliaments is simple: quotas.

"That is what white men said about black men before they let them play sports. Now, black men dominate white men in every sport. No wonder white men didn't want them in the game! Ever heard of Jackie Robinson?"

Are you saying that women will dominate men in every sports one day :o)? You don't need muscles to drive cars or motorcycles, or to play chess. Do you see any women dominating these sports? Or even making a living out of these?

If you really think women are as capable as men then what you need equality laws for? You need them simply because you are not on the same line with men. You actually should qualify under the Federal Disability Act. You need special help :o).

Artfldgr says:

"A lot of those businesses are the men putting the business in their wives names.

Please document your claim or retract it and apologize.

are you saying that you are unaware of the fact that people put things in their wives name for various strategic reasons?

the problem is that its illegal. I know of 5 companies that did this to get the tax benifits and other entitlements... by doing that, and claiming their wives do the finances, they then claim the wives run the business.

the worst time you notice this is during divorces or deaths. (there was a gangster movie with that plot)

"Porush had claimed the company, Stay Young Products Inc., is solely owned by his current wife. But Ross said the evidence shows that Porush actually controls the firm.

Ross said that Porush admitted that he is responsible for "the operation, sales and day-to-day management" of Stay Young Products. He also wrote that the business is reliant on Porush's "business capital and knowledge capital."

"His use of placing assets under his wife's name is a shell game, albeit poorly orchestrated," Ross wrote. "


Martin McDonagh - also ran a trucking company, Elliott Inc., under his wife's name to qualify as a womanowned business.


She is listed in city documents as the owner and operator of the O'Hare Billy Goat to be certified as a woman-owned business by the city. She told the city she had started the business "from scratch."

In an interview with the Sun-Times on Wednesday, Sam Sianis acknowledged he has final control over all seven Billy Goats, including the one at O'Hare.

And he contended that city officials told him to cross his name off the liquor license for the Billy Goat at O'Hare and remove his name from the lease there, leaving only his wife's name on the documents.

"They just say it have to be minority," Sianis said. "I'm not minority. It's in my wife's name."

"They scratched my name and left my wife's name," Sianis said.

By Thursday afternoon, the city stripped the Billy Goat at O'Hare of its woman-owned status, deciding Irene Sianis did not really run it.


When i PERSONALLY went and tried the woman told me to give up. with all the advantages to one side, the banks seldom want to work with the disadvantaged. in this case the disadvantage is the one group that is not allowed to get entitlements for affirmative action. all women get them, all people who are not white... the bankers didnt want to see plans by anyone else
[they did make sure all the literature was writen in neutral language though]

this one goes back 10 years.

The city of San Jose has decided to give more business to firms owned by minorities and women, but not everyone--including some minorities--is thrilled with its program to do so.

The San Jose City Council voted 11-0 in May to approve a Minority Business Enterprise/Women's Business Enterprise Program for city consultant and purchasing contracts.

[there are a lot of these, ny follows the 5x5 law... so on top of the sba programs there are a ton of other programs from womens orgs and such. i work in a hospital and i just saw the book on handicapped preparation for work for women and girls. there is no similar book for men and boys... why?]

The program establishes goals of giving 20 percent of such contracts to MBE/WBE construction consultants, 20 percent to nonconstruction consultants, 25 percent to service and maintenance firms, and 25 percent to minority and women businesses that sell goods.

[if you give 1 out of 5 contracts to ONLY to women (minorities still have it tougher than white women, but white women get to be the same as a black woman on welfare for this socialist program), and minorities, AND they can also bid on the others as well... wouldnt it stand to reason that their category would grow faster than everyone else who can only bid on 80% of contracts? and who also have to pay full payroll tax, and full electricity, and full other thigns on top of it... so on top of the 20% of contracts, they get lots of other perks.

socialists cooking the books and not telling you so you think the change is real ]

you read the article and they say they are being discriminated... why? beacuse they aer not calling them up special to ask if they want the contract.. something they dont do for the others. Departments must make food-faith efforts to follow up via telephone after initial solicitations to determine whether MBE/WBEs are interested in submitting a bid or proposal.

Recordkeeping must be improved to track contract awards by individual departments.

if they dont have records then how did they determine discrimination (its assumed!)

The city must offer training programs for minority, women and small businesses that focus on how to successfully compete for city contracts.

this makes you assume that there arent such programs, but there ARE.. the people dont take advantage of them... and the ones that want to (like me) arent permitted to. you quickly realize that even if you hand them money on a platter, they dont want to work!

so this is a play for more training programs... again, something the other groups dont get.

And the proposed program "doesn't say how the city is going to perform its outreach. How does increasing the city's staffing improve a deliverable outreach?" he said.

again.. socialist vagary about all the improvements if you make it bigger... but no way to fund it, and no clear way of how it improves things...

Another of Mr. McPherson's concerns is reliance on self-certification to verify that a business is truly 51 percent minority- or woman-owned, the city's definition of a minority/women business enterprise.

"With self-certification, a husband could put his wife's name on there and claim it's a woman-owned business," he said.

Said Ms. Simon: "In my opinion, the city wanted to get as many M/WBEs in the arena as possible. Thus, one of the recommendations had been to allow them to self-certify. If it is, in fact, purely a self-certification process, yes, that would be a problem. There would be people who would attempt to fabricate just to be considered an M/WBE for their own gain."

note that this article is about a CITY effort that duplicates the NATIONAL effort of the SBA.


however why would someone want to do that? because the perks given means that any woman owned business that ran against another business would have an overwhelming advantage.


here is a guide from pnc bank... there are no similar guides for others.

they also list a bunch of taken for granted things... that amount to.

women owned businesses are better and more succesful

if so, then why need all the perks?

PRIVATE CERTIFICATION – Two private national organizations offer
certification, which is accepted at hundreds of corporations: The Women’s Business
Enterprise National Council ( and the National Women Business
Owners Corporation (

two organizations take tax dollars to help women fill out the forms and become certified..


GOVERNMENT CERTIFICATION – Consider federal, state and even
local government certification. Free workshops help with the application and
government staffers will answer specific questions. Additionally, websites can help
with both the certification process and how to procure a government contract.

and they ahve all that too....

business owners originally to combat the ‘old boy’s network,’ these wellorganized
groups helped women network and provide professional
support. Today, they are still good sources of networking, and also offer
education and professional development.

its illegal to form one for men....

so you have orgs like thsi for everyone.. and orgs like this for women only...


but this isnt all... once certified there are a few hundred orgs and groups to help you... there are ZERO for the other side!!

Minority Supplier Development Council/National Minority Supplier Development Council

Women’s Business Enterprise National Council

National Women Business Owners Corporation

and not only does SBA and other groups help you with certification, but you can also get certification assistance in most major areas of state.

Department of Transportation & Disadvantaged Business Enterprise Certification


The regulations likely will give agencies the ability to limit certain competitions to women-owned small businesses. Currently, these types of businesses do not receive set-aside contracts and are not eligible to participate in the 8(a) program, which is for minority-owned small businesses.

"The challenge is that there are other targeted programs out there and white women weren't allowed to get into those markets," said Margot Dorfman, chief executive of the Women's Chamber of Commerce.

SBA supports other programs for women-owned small businesses, including the Matchmaking program which partners small companies with large government contractors. It said 50 percent of the $26 million worth of contracts generated from the program has gone to women-owned small businesses.

but if they share contracts with a male owned business and that isnt 8a certified... they get hit that they are hurting minorities and women.


in 8 years with my company maintained a shell trying to get contracts, only ONE contract proposal was sent to me. thats how bad it is... because i am not on all these special databases and things, i cant get any of that work... so its either companies that were started earlier, or those who are women owned. OR those who are men owned and then use their wives name...


"Start your funding search by targeting woman-owned business loans offered by most major banks and the venture funds focused on woman-run businesses — Viridian Capital in San Francisco, New Vista Capital in Palo Alto, Women's Growth Capital Fund and the Telecommunications Development Fund in Washington, D.C." suggests Brosseau. In addition, Brosseau says there are a number of new "angel" groups (wealthy private investors who focus on start-ups) with a lot of women-run businesses in their portfolios, including The Angel's Forum in Palo Alto and the Seraph Capital Network that opened recently in Seattle. "These groups and others like them see women CEOs as a plus," says Brosseau. "I also recommend networking with other women business owners to learn more about the money sources they used."

[yes most banks have SPECIAL loans for women owned businesses... lower interest rates, deferred payments, higher caps, grant guaranteed, etc]


and when you go to places like New York Businesses Development corporation... a nice neutral sounding name... you look and

If you are a minority or women-owned business and are seeking a loan, we want to talk to you. You can obtain financing, even if you had credit issues in the past, as long as they are not a continuing issue. We do not use credit scoring to determine whether you are eligible for a loan. We talk to you and listen to you.

if your a woman and you want a loan, they want to talk to you... they dont need good credit ratings... records, etc...

now... i come in and i want a loan, do you think they will give me a loan with no records? how about with bad credit? how about if i jsut "sit and talk with them"

take a look at the loan amnounts...

however if you read articles, they will say that its not possible for women to get a loan, they will never mention all these programs and they will ask for more assistance.

While there is a common belief
that women-owned businesses face discrimination in securing loans from banks
(Schwartz, 1979; Riding and Swift, 1990; Buttner and Rosen, 1992; Fabowale
et al., 1995; Haines et al., 1999; Coleman, 2000), after controlling for the firm size,
years in business, industry, and other owner/firm characteristics, discrimination does not appear to exist.

this is the SAME result on discrimination and the 73 cents on a dollar figure that everyone, including la russophobe repeats

Venture Capital
An International Journal of Entrepreneurial
Finance // Women-Owned businesses and access to bank credit:
Evidence from three surveys since 1987

In testing the likelihood of women applying for bank loans, we found that even
after controlling for important business characteristics, women-owned businesses are
significantly less likely to apply for a bank loan. This relationship was consistent over the three time periods studied.

they make some guesses as to why.. including a guess that they refute in the next paragraph (which shows how much we are skewed)

In examining if women-owned businesses are less likely to be turned down in
their most recent loan application, we found that gender was not significant. This
outcome is not surprising given the legal requirement prohibiting gender discrimination
in lending.14 Our results suggest that there is no likely difference in the
approval of loans to women- and men-owned businesses after controlling for firm
level characteristics. This finding was consistent over the three time periods we
studied, and confirms prior research. It appears that firm level characteristics
account for differences in the approval of bank loans to women- and men-owned

and now its easier!!! they have special programs now that started AFTER the time that this study purported them to have NO discrimination because the are women.

so why all the persks, the enetitlements, and such? to make the numbers grow so that they can prove an ideological point with the false numbers. (and put communism in)

women-owned businesses that do not apply for a loan for fear of being turned down
should note that there is no difference in turndown rates between men- and womenowned
businesses that applied for loans

these owners should be aware that if their business is
younger and/or smaller, their business is more likely to be turned down, regardless of

could it be that women who are just starting out are comparign themselves to established businesses? yup!!

which is why they want comparative worth, and marxist salaries... in this way a person starting out would have the same standing as a person who has proven themselves...

this is why the 73 cent on a dollar figure comes from... from NOT accounting for years on the job, experience, continuity, etc.. AND a math error in the original study that kicked it off.


The Office of Women's Business Ownership (OWBO) assists women achieve their dreams and improve their communities by helping them start and run successful businesses, regardless of social or financial disadvantage, race, ethnicity or business background. OWBO and the Online Women's Business Center are integral components of Entrepreneurial Development's network of training and counseling services.


this link gives you a pdf

SBA's womens business center (WBC) program is a national network of WBCs providing educational
resources to help women start and grow successful small businesses. The Program's mission is to level the
playing field for women entrepreneurs still facing unique obstacles in the business world.

39 pages of programs for women ONLY!!!


( - This is a new fundraising organization that raises money from women for women. Loans are given from $500 to $10,000 (for first time recipients the maximum amount is $5,000). Count-Me-In looks like a great resource with funding consideration based on experience over credit history.


The Women's Funding Network
( - Promotes the development and growth of women's funds that empower women and girls by fostering strategic alliances among women, donors, communities and institutions.


American Association of University Women
( - This foundation is one of the largest private sources of funding for graduate women in the world, supports aspiring scholars around the globe, teachers and activists in local communities, women at critical stages of their careers, and those pursuing professions where women are underrepresented.


The Ada Project for Women (TAP)
( - Includes information on conferences, discussion groups, organizations, fellowships, grants, and notable women in computer science.


Financial Women International
( - Provides information on professional growth, information sharing, peer networking, mentoring, leadership development, and career advancement for women.

How To Find Grants for Women Owned Businesses

The government does not actually set aside very much money to fund grants for women owned businesses, but the government does have quite a few grants for minority owned businesses. Some people might not realize right away that these grants can easily be taken advantage of to help fund a women owned business. Women fall into the minority category, so almost all of these grants are available to fund women owned businesses. If you are unable to receive a grant from the government, then the government also offers very low interest loans that can be used by women owned businesses and paid back over a period of time.

If you are unable to get any help from the government then you can always turn to the private foundations that available. Some of these foundations were setup for the sole purpose of giving grants to women owned businesses. A few of the foundations that are available are the Women’s Business Grants presented by, Amber Grants for Women, and WomensNet Online grants. These different foundations award grants for women owned businesses only. Some of the grants are to help start a business and some of the grants can be used to help expand or grow a business that has already been started.

yup... all good reasons for women owned businesses to be increasing... grants, loans, programs... lots of advantages for partners and such to put things in their wives names... and the list goes on and on..

there are no reasources for men only...



i am from a immigrant family... first generation here on my dads side, second on my moms...

what oppressive thing did my family take part in? until after 1945, we werent even Here.

technically if you define minority by numbers a latvian son of a refugee would be a minority... and in some government programs i am considered a white minority.

but there is a believe that if i go to a bank, loans come quicker to me... or i havce lots of wealthy freinds with money to help... and on and on.

meanwhile i cant get help because they dont want to put in money to someone that has SPECIAL disadvantage since they are the single member group that doesnt get freebies.

its illegal to discriminate against a group for their race... right?

well then what is it when you give things to every group but one? just a clever way to discriminate by giving, rather than by taking.

the number of programs for women is HUGE..

state programs, city programs, county programs, corporate programs, ngo programs, school programs, college programs, and on and aon.

and most whine that there istn enough... why? because they dont look to see what they have, they automatically assumed that they must not have them...

meanwhile.... the men are going the way of the soviet union.. dont want to marry... dont want to work... dont want to invent... dont want to do antyhign byut the bare minimal, and play video games, and drink..

i gues thats ok... they will be the future mates for women... which sucks, but its what they wanted... since all these changes in the past 40 years has been to make it better for them... but each year it gets more totalitarian and worse.. and the leaders say they want communism, and totalitarianism, but the women still want their ideas, ways and such.

in 40 years what have they won for women? abortion was already there.. equal work laws already there... voting already there... smoking and liquore, already there....

but they have changed the law to guilty until proven innocent... and in having gender spcial laws when the constitution forbids such... and in having powers delegated from the state to agencies, also in violation to the constitution... then there is the concept of each according to their abilties each according to their needs (which any one can show that if you dont try and you learn nothing, then you ahve more needs than abilities. and so get mroe)

sorry if this was too long..

but i lost my son to all this... and his mom too him and her other two kids with her to rob a bank... i have had him visit me only once... the whole thing is now a copy of the laws that lenin put in place that DECIMATED the families and cultural history of what used to be russian peoples.

countryboy says:

Men die sooner than women because we want to, and why is it that the women and minorities take a different test than white males when applying for the fire department or police department? It is physically easier and mentally not as challenging. Simple reason they have to fill quotas. When you promote mediocrity you get mediocrity or worse.

Jessica says: are from the country aren’t you! If you had ever left the country and opened your eyes a little bit you would see that woman are equal to men. I will not make any degrading comments towards you, although you have towards me! That is not who I am, I don’t understand why men and women cant be equal and this has to be an ongoing argument! Why cant you just give women the credit they deserve and admire the differences between sexes? And you are right men’s bodies are built and structured to have a stronger upper body and womens bodies are smaller and have a strong lower body, yet both however are able to be "strong" if they want and are willing to apply themselves to a strength training program! And as for Mental strength you are very wrong, where have you ever seen a scientific study in which it said human brains of any kind have different capabilities of learning?!?! And you are probably right that they make the fire and police dept. test easier for women BECAUSE THEY ARE SEXIST! And if women were promoting mediocrity I would love for your work place to see your blog entry so they can all see "what a man you are" and what your promoting (We call that there in my town SEXISM)! That you can trash women and minorities simply for being the wrong skin color or not being born with a penis! I mean if you want women to be walking around with penis’s, whatever your into! I think you just feel emasculated and jealous that all these people are taking your jobs that are higher qualified than you! I think you need to brush up on your history and look at what minority’s and women have been through and then next time you get into a “blog argument” you wont look stupid because you will have something to back your statement up with!

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