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Iran, Exporting Revolution to Azerbaijan

Filed under: Iran ~ Russia

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We've previously discussed the threats to Western security posed by Russian dictator Vladimir Putin's support for radical Islamic maniac Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Now, let's have a look at the consequences for Russia itself.

The signal hallmark of the USSR, as much as communism or repression, was always self-destruction, and it appears that adopting a proud KGB spy as its ruler has allowed Russia to retain that hallmark intact. Scholar-blogger Paul Goble tells us that Azerbaijani prosecutors have

brought to trial 16 members of an underground group the authorities there identify as the "Northern Mahdi Army" and say was organized, trained and supplied by Iran's Republican Guard in order to overthrow the current Azerbaijani government and impose an Islamic state on the Iranian model there. The trial, which began [Monday] in closed session some ten months after Azerbaijani police arrested the group, throws into sharp relief the growing tensions just beneath the surface of what both Baku and Tehran have generally sought to portray as good-neighborly relations. According to the prosecution, Russian and Azerbaijani media report, the members of this group underwent "special training in Iran [under the direction of that country's Republican Guard, a group the United States and other countries have identified as a terrorist organization] in the use of various forms of arms and explosive devices." The notion that Iran would try to "export its revolution" to Azerbaijan, the only other country with a Shiite majority, has long been common ground in discussions about Azerbaijan, but the suggestion that Iran has set up "an underground army" to overthrow the government there has raised a variety of concerns there and elsewhere.

Goble notes that "Azerbaijanis are thought to form roughly a third of the Iranian population overall -- some 30 million people -- and to constitute a slightly greater share of the residents of the Iranian capital, Tehran" and provides a wealth of background information on the region.

Let's leave aside Russia's ridiculous proposal to reposition the U.S. European missile defense system in Azerbaijan, which was absurd for strategic reasons long before this issue is considered, an obvious effort by Russia to subvert Western security (relying on the Soviet idea that the West is composed of idiots clever Russians can easily dupe). Let's instead ask this: If Iran is seeking to export revolution to Azerbaijan today, how long before it targets contiguous, Slavic-Orthodox Russia? Goble reports that Russia's large Muslim population is becoming increasingly active, with the number applying to make the Haj pilgrimage doubling this year compared to last, and that the Kremlin is seeking to use its Chechen proxy Ramzan Kadyrov as a wedge against the rise of domestic Islam. Some Russian Orthodox leaders are referring to intermarriage as a form of genocide, and Goble has noted the possibility that Russia could be majority-Muslim by 2050.

By seeking to insert a U.S. military presence in Azerbaijan, was Russia trying to get the U.S. to do its fighting for it? And how can Russia's active support for Iran, including nuclear technology, missile systems to defend it (even while opposing such systems in Eastern Europe as destabilizing) and endless diplomatic cover, blocking sanctions in the UN over the entire world's objections, constitute anything other than a fundamentally suicidal policy for Russia? Is Russia really willing to create, and be destroyed by, a Frankenstein monster in Iran just so it can spit in the eye of the West? One might find that hard to believe if there were not the recent history of the USSR as a reference point.

Click the jump for a map of the region.

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Comments


armchair pessimist says:

I agree with you LaR; maybe this is a first. Sarkozy says he just had a great meeting with Putin. This might be hot air or it might mean Russia is waking up to the fire it's been feeding. We will see.


Kevin Sullivan says:

Hey, love the blog, good post!

I think Russia may also be concerned about economic arrangements being discussed between Iran and Azerbaijan. It sounds like Iran may give in on some of their claims to Caspian waters, so that they can A. Keep them closer to them than the U.S., and B. Work withthem to establish gas pipeline deals. They are apparently working these matters out at a conference later this month, and it may be that the Russians are concerned about their energy hegemony to Europe being threatened.

American presence in Azerbaijan could stick a wedge in there.

Anyway, good stuff!


Russian says:

Rubbish, nonesense, paranoic delusions.
The author has tried to write on the topic she is absolutely ignorant about.
Typical for Kim Ziegfeld.


Artfldgr says:

Rubbish, nonesense, paranoic delusions.

PROOF please!!!!!!!!

Ad Hominem is a waste, as those who use it.

Show us where exactly is she ignorant?


the issue with you Russian is that you WANT an outcome and refuse to see anything that may derail that, including the truth.

LaRussophobe actually wants a similar outcome, however she can think for herself and see that there is no way to get their from where they are if this is the actions that are taken to 'fix' things.

thats not ignorant, thats the opposite...

all states share similar things... but the russian communist state is like all the bad on steroids, which is the intent because from day one winning was everythign, and wining at any means became everything. even if it meant selling out all morals, fealty to your own people, justice, law, and everything else.

what good does it do to win if it costs you everything that gives you worth and value?

what you totally believe that is farcicle is that an organization that was there from the VERY first days of the regime, and has lasted through every regime change, purge and such, and is now in command can somehow change its fundimental nature of its birth and that births purpose.

a narrow-minded intelligentsia in the Party who sob and fuss over mistakes made by the Cheka… when we are reproached with cruelty, we wonder how people can forget the most elementary Marxism. -- Lenin

“punish strictly, severely, unsparingly the slightest breach of discipline”. “Our revolutionary courts must shoot”. -- Lenin

“the energy and nature of mass terror must be encouraged” -- Lenin

the soviets perfected state terroriosm birthed in france.

“In principle we have never renounced terror and cannot renounce it. If [any man is against the revolution] we’ll stand him up against a wall -- Lennin 1901

[e]ven when he was seriously ill, Lenin never lost sight of his obsession with ‘cleansing Russia for all time’, and he continued to give Stalin instructions to carry out his punitive orders through the Cheka. Stalin was still following Lenin’s advice in the 1930s… (Dimitri Volkogonov Lenin: A New Biography, Free Press 1994 p. 269)


For twenty-five years after the Twentieth Congress the Russian people ask themselves where Stalin had acquired the cruelty which he inflicted on his fellow countrymen. None of us ...could begin to imagine that the father of domestic Russian terrorism, merciless and totalitarian, was Lenin. - Dimitri Volkogonov

The idea of the concentration camp system — the State Camp Administration, or GULAG — and the appalling purges of the 1930s are commonly associated with Stalin, but the true father of the Bolshevik concentration camps, the executions, the mass terror and the ‘organs’ which stood above the state, was Lenin. Against the background of Lenin’s terror, it becomes easier to understand the methods of Stalin’s inquisition, which was capable of executing someone solely on the grounds of suspicion. (Ibid. p. 235)

The Soviet citizen today is poor not only in comparison with his counterpart in other European countries, but also in comparison with his own grandfather. In terms of essentials — food clothing, and housing — the Soviet population as a whole is worse off than it was before the revolution and in the 1920s . . . the Soviet citizenry is positively destitute. -- 1980 Professor Pipes of Harvard to Senate subcommittee


i can show you for any year you pick from 1901 some attrocity being done by the Russian leadership.

while it has waxed and waned with pragmatic need, it never ever abated. EVER.

you can take all the dogs from the pound home you want or can afford to keep, but you will never wake up one day and find one of them has become a horse.


Until you can make a case for why a leopard changes its spots, when the change decreases the leopards power, then we might actually listen to your assertions.

i will tell you that you cant even make a case for a leopard changing spots when it is in their best interest to do so.


show us the impetus that makes them see that this change is in their interest (for they dont give a damn about the interests of the lumpen proletariat to which they have looked down on since Marx invented the term in derision)



Artfldgr says:

sorry i forgot to add this quote. Russian read it carefully, it is VERY truthful as to ALL states.

it speaks to why its risky for larussophobe to do what she is doing. Its also why statists like you dont realize that your digging your own grave.

All government, in its essence, is a conspiracy against the superior man: its one permanent object is to oppress him and cripple him. If it be aristocratic in organization, then it seeks to protect the man who is superior only in law against the man who is superior in fact; if it be democratic, then it seeks to protect the man who is inferior in every way against both. One of its primary functions is to regiment men by force, to make them as much alike as possible . . .

to search out and combat originality among them. All it can see in an original idea is potential change, and hence an invasion of its prerogatives.

The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos.

Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally [as Mencken clearly was not] he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are. . . .

The ideal government of all reflective men, from Aristotle onward, is one which lets the individual alone – one which barely escapes being no government at all. This ideal, I believe, will be realized in the world twenty or thirty centuries after I have . . . taken up my public duties in Hell

H.L. Menken


Russian says:

Artfldgr: PROOF please!!!!!!!!

OK, buddy. You'll get it. On Sunday (night). After I am back from fishing.


Russian says:

Well you political philosophy with elements of anarchism is a rather trivial one. Yeh, governments suck. But without governments life can be kind of troublesome too.
And I do not quite understand how what Lenin said in 1901, Stalin time atrocities and what Volkogonov or Professor Pipes wrote about communism are relevant to the today's Russia, her policies and persuites. If you know Marxism that good, you must know his (or m.b. Lenin's statement that the state politics is the concentrated manifestation of the state economics.And this is true.
The USSR politics was not like that. The USSR was driven by ideology. The communist leaders were "believers". They believed that Communism would be the happy future of the mankind, the ultimate stage of the social development, so they believed they had to accelerate the unevitable victory of communism, bring it to all nations.
The West opposed. That what the Cold War was about. All the internal atrocities and abroad interventions by the Soviets were driven by that ideology.
Russia now has no ideology. Russians still are trying to find some "national idea" which would define why Russians, Tatars, Buryats or people of North Caucasus are supposed to live in one state. And yet can not find it. Russia has nothing to offer to other nations other than her gaz, oil, sport and cultural achievements and weapons. Russia does not want from other nations anything other than respect of her security concerns and good trade relations.

Russian in the end of 1980s-1990s trusted the West and the USA wholeheartedly, but the USA took advantage of Russian weakness and started "cutting" the Russia off. The USA want to preserve their domination in the world, grow and agressively use their military power. All the blame for Russian-USA relations deterioration is on the American side only.
But this not bright lady (LR) says the opposite.

By the way, about her ignorance
Do not go far. Just read her article above:
“… how can Russia's active support for Iran, including nuclear technology, missile systems to defend it (even while opposing such systems in Eastern Europe as destabilizing)...

So, she thinks Russian TOR air defense missiles (something like a few “Stingers’” put on a launching platform and connected to the radar and computer)-which are not banned for sale to any country in the world and a lot of contries have something like that, and the strategic Anti-Ballistic Missiles systems the USA planning to deploy in the Eastern Europe are the same!

What other proofs of her competence do you want?

She does not understand the basics of international relations, the current international settings and balances, capabilities of the acting parties, motifs in politics- how all that stuff works.
Can you imagine (just to compare) a baby girl who sees recent Burma violence on TV and says: “Mommy, I am afraid of Burma may attack us, America!” This is the LR’s level of thinking.

You say: “… its risky for larussophobe to do what she is doing…”

What is there so risky? She is a right republican with a few liberal features like “pro-gay stance”. So, she loves the USA government and the USA government likes this well behaved, patriotic, not very smart girl.
Or you mean, Putin is going to assassinate LR? Hah-hah!








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