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Obama, Clinton . . . How Depressing is That?

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I don't know about you, dear reader, but I can't help but be a little depressed by the candidacies for U.S. president of Hillary Rodham (yes, that's right, even after the cigar it's still . . .) Clinton and Barack Hussein (yes, that's right, Hussein) Obama.

Believe it or not, I seriously doubt that there is any human being on the face of this planet who would be better pleased by the election of a woman or an African-America to the office of POTUS than yours truly, and that includes a responsible Democrat. I think it would rock the world's world to see it happen, to say nothing of the good it would do the self esteem of all the women and people of color in the country, perhaps the world. It could give America a whole new gravitas when speaking out for democracy and capitalism.

But, believe it or not, I actually think we'd be worse off if either one of these two got elected. If it's Clinton, people will just say: "That doesn't prove anything. She only got there because of her husband." And every woman who comes after her will have a Barry-Bondslike footnote after her name that says "yeah, but she only got there because of Clinton." If its Obama, people will just say: "His mother was white. Americans would never have elected a 'real' black man."

And that's to say nothing of the fact that neither one of these two individuals is remotely qualified to hold the office of POTUS. Neither one has ever held any kind of significant executive position, much less an elected one like governor or mayor, and you can't name a single noteworthy accomplishment of either one prior to being thrust into the U.S. Senate. We've had African-American and female mayors and governors. There's Carly Fiorina. There's Clarence Otis, Jr. There's a wealth of talent, if you care to look.

They also seem to be horrifyingly devoid of real feeling for their communities. Both claim to be big proponents of their polities, but what have they done to change the Senate to be more pro-Black and pro-Woman? Nothing that I know of. It remains an elite old-white-boy's club and these two seem to be just along for the ride on its coattails.

If they screw up once elected, what will that do to the fortunes of oppressed African-Americans and women? Nothing good, I'll wager.

Well, that's just what I'm thinking. How 'bout you?

FYI: Both Clinton and Obama have been caught red-handed attempting to plant questions at the Republican debate. Dare we imagine how the nutroots would react if, say, Giuliani (now enmeshed in his own nasty scandal) were caught doing the same? If the world hates Republicans so much, why do Democrats feel they need to stoop to such depths? Just wondering.

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Artfldgr says:

And that's to say nothing of the fact that neither one of these two individuals is remotely qualified to hold the office of POTUS.

and THIS is the real reason that the other points you made abotu obamas mother and the wife of the man who redifines words at whim.

[only in america do people think that the wives of politicians acquire skill and information through some form of osmosis by sleeping in the same room with them (but that others that may sleep with them never stay long enough for the transfer). anyone care to list out the number of women who have stepped forward into their husbands shoes in politics?]

i have NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER with a woman, or man of african descent (even if mixed) being president. why should i? i have always crowed that i was about merit not these other things.

but both of them are not meritorious, and have all too clearly shown that they are divisive, lying, manipulative, sneaky, and overwhelmingly communist socialist. (anyone care to go over either clintons history? how about obamas?)

hilary is a rad fem, and does not deserve to be president for exactly that reason. as a representative office, representing only half the population, and not the whole population equally, is against the oaths of office she has already taken! (care to read em? laws are not supposed to be gender special, or any point special... socialists think to tune it with all these special cases, but it makes a meaningless farce of the whole thing)

rad fems are for communism... they say so.. and hillaries term paper thesis is on how marxism is the right way... but you cant read it since they locked it up... sneaky.

they are SOCIOPATHIC and clearly so...

[and guliani has been favored by left press because he is short and club footed. bet you didnt know that.. i have met the man several times, and has kept the fact that he is this way out of the public view. undertandably, but you see, if they get him to be nominated, they will have an easy time at the deciding point... but if thompson gets it, well then they are in trouble. anyone read his flat tax proposal? did ya know that that was the only tax the US was supposed to be allowed to have?

basically in this race, the left, the democrats have shown that they are authoritarian socialists... about an inch to the right of putin...

and they hacve done what sociopathic leaders have always done... win at any cost in any way... this is not the actions of a competent person who can sit in office based on merit... its the actions of a sociopath who cant run on merit because such takes not shorting the rules... and rules are not for them, but for those that serve them.


“The American people are tired of liars and people who pretend to be something they're not.” -- Hillary Clinton

only someone that is sociopathic and playing people can do the things that she has done in this race, and still say that to the people she is fooling.

“Many of you are well enough off that the tax cuts may have helped you. We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.” -- Hillary Clinton

“We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society.” -- Hillary Clinton

communism is based on the individual or the commune?

capitalism is based on the communal or the individual?

a vote for hillary or obama or any democrat today is a vote for fast communism (a vote fo the othert side is a slower slide because they ahve to compete with the lies - but there are many that are actually on the other side. the commitern ordered its fellow travelors to register falsely since america makes no legal requirement that a communist has to register as a commnist... so they all registered as dems and reps..and now the whole thing is such a mish mosh we dont know which way is up)

"Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat." -- Hillary Clinton

shows you how much concern she has for the peopel who got tortureed, imprisoned, maimed, slowly bleeding out to death in pain.

no, the lady home.. in her house... with a guarantee of a stipend on either outcome of the life of her mate... and so forth has it harder....

only representing half of the country... like thats a recipe for peice and ability and such.

“Research shows the presence of women raises the standards of ethical behavior and lowers corruption.” -- Hillary Clinton

only a sociopath would say that, at the same time as doing what she is clearly done.

“In many parts of the world, women and girls are especially vulnerable to HIV/AIDS because they lack control over most aspects of their life. Cultural expectations and gender roles expose women and girls to violence, sexual exploitation and far greater risk for infection.” -- Hillary Clinton

yeah right... ever think that making young girls into sexual toys by oversexualizing them in the name of liberation (and destruction of family), might have somethjing to do with it?

after all, men want wives who are faithful just as much as wives want men that way... the sexual revolution has made sure that deseases like HIV are easy...

girls in high school are notching their lipstick cases and putting men ni place sexually. you can see catholic girls on the street dressed in a way you had to pay extra to a hooker to have.

but the problem? its men... as if the men are the source of desease and women are pure.

men cant have as much sex as one woman... (anyone care to study the battle between the roman whore houses and the senate women? the word obscene comes from the winner)

you can read online diaries of girls below 20 with more than 100 different male couplings.. males cant do that... unless they are micheal jordan, etc.. but a common not to bad looking girl who things that everytime she lays down she is doing one for the sisterhood can roll over and over taking many on at once and pulling a train.

do note that the old way before them was much less promiscuous, and so had less cervical canxcer, less depressed and craxcked up women, less aids, less chlamidia, and on and on... for the whole population..

its not the men that wanted this, it was the loadies... adn when it comes to gential mutilation, its ladies doing it to ladies.

today peter vallone is trying to make looking illegal.. based on whether someone thinks someone else is staring... why? so he can get rid of the gypsy cabs for his yellow cab consituency... but the result will be a form of slavery..

anyone see the vagina monologues...
a key scene in it has a lesbian get a child drunk and have sex with it... to which the childs vagina says "if it was rape then it was a good rape".

after all, such would open the door to young girls being the sex toys of lesbians..

dont believe me... then look at hillaries points below and let me know the consequences.

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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=16362
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Those who are dead serious about changing the legal status of the parent-child relationship have advocated three basic changes, which Hillary outlined in the Harvard Educational Review in 1974:

1) The legal concept of "minority," which refers to the status of a non-adult, should be abolished, and the presumption that children are incompetent to make decisions for themselves should be reversed.

2) All constitutional procedural rights guaranteed to adults should be granted to children.

3) The presumption that parents' and children's interests are the same should be rejected.


in this way, they have turned the sexual predation of children as done by kinsey, and made them full flowering sexual beings, with complte autonomy.

how can you prosecute someone for pedophilia if the child is considered to be able to make up their minds as an experienced and more developed adult?

that the special protections we have for children are to be removed...

so lets see... children can then vote.. this way you would see politicians working the chkildren crowd since they are easier to sucker... i will let you all stay up, parents will be arrested for punishing you, and an xbox in every pot.

they would be held to contractual obligations whitout parental review... so theycould sign themselves into contractual slavery.

the labor protectios would be gone, and so another force that doesnt work in capitalism is mobilized for the elite in the state.

dont think so?

well here is the rest of the quote.

A "competent child should be permitted to assert his or her own interests," Hillary wrote. In describing the child-parent dependency relationship, she stated, "Along with the family, past and present examples of such arrangements include marriage, slavery, and the Indian reservation system."

so while there is a lot of HIV that makes her worried on page 1, she is worried that children arent having enough sex, and independence.

a good recipe for a productive culturally based society... right?

the problem kim, is that you are siding because she is a woman... for a person that says they are not, you are not separating your 'feelings' and using yoru logic. she is selling the same thing yoru fighting against, but you will buy it from a her, and not a him.

thas by design...

"Women are the creatures of an organized tyranny of men, as the workers are the creatures of an organized tyranny of idlers." -- Eleanor Marx, The Woman Question

and i am glad that you say democracy so much when we are a republic

“Democracy is the road to socialism.” -- Karl Marx

"Anyone who knows anything of history knows that great social changes are impossible without feminine upheaval. Social progress can be measured exactly by the social position of the fair sex, the ugly ones included." -- Karl Marx

“We should not say that one man's hour is worth another man's hour, but rather that one man during an hour is worth just as much as another man during an hour. Time is everything, man is nothing: he is at the most time's carcass.” -- Karl Marx

"For the bureaucrat, the world is a mere object to be manipulated by him." -- Karl Marx

"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans..." -- Bill Clinton

"For one of the implicit, if unadmitted, tenets of feminism has been a fundamental disrespect for men." -- Wendy Dennis


"The institution of marriage is the chief vehicle for the perpetuation of the oppression of women; it is through the role of wife that the subjugation of women is maintained. In a very real way the role of wife has been the genesis of women's rebellion throughout history." -- Marlene Dixon, "Why Women's Liberation? Racism and Male Supremacy"

"How will the family unit be destroyed? ... the demand alone will throw the whole ideology of the family into question, so that women can begin establishing a community of work with each other and we can fight collectively. Women will feel freer to leave their husbands and become economically independent, either through a job or welfare." -- From Female Liberation by Roxanne Dunbar

"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies." -- Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, (Dutton Publishing, 1989)

"The first class opposition that appears in history coincides with the development of the antagonism between man and woman in monogamous marriage, and the first class oppression coincides with that of the female sex by the male." -- Frederick Engels, The Origins of the Family, Private Property, and the State (New York, International Publishers, 1942), p.58

i kind of liek this one..

"The first condition of the liberation of the wife is to bring the whole female sex back into public industry, and this in turn demands the abolition of the monogamous family as the economic unit of society." [Engels, p.67]

and now women can work for the few elite that run the state, while believing they are workign for themselves, while abandoning the work for their families, which are now unimportant.

someone is selling you a decorated prison cell..

"She's only a bird in a gilded cage,
A beautiful sight to see.
You may think she's happy and free from care,
She's not, though she seems to be.
'Tis sad when you think of her wasted life
For youth cannot mate with age;
And her beauty was sold
for an old man's gold,
She's a bird in a gilded cage."


Ladybird ladybird fly away home,
Your house in on fire and your children are gone,
All except one and that's little Ann,
For she crept under the frying pan.

"All men are rapists and that's all they are" -- Marilyn French, Authoress; (later, advisoress to Al Gore's Presidential Campaign.)

"The most merciful thing a large family can do to one of its infant members is to kill it." -- Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race, (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)
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"Birth control: to create a race of thoroughbreds." -- Margaret Sanger, Birth Control Review, November 1921, (vol. V, no. 11); p.2.
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"More children from the fit, less from the unfit—that is the chief aim of birth control." -- Margaret Sanger, Birth Control Review, May 1919 (vol. III, no. 5); p.12.
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"The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." -- Margaret Sanger, letter to Clarence Gamble, Dec. 10,1939. - Sanger manuscripts, Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College. (Dec. 10 is the correct date of the letter. There is a different date circulated, e.g. Oct. 19, 1939; but Dec. 10 is the correct date of Ms Sanger's letter to Mr. Gamble.)

what a lovely set of women and men...
and hillary AND obama are unabashedly representing that ideology.

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within." -- Josef Stalin


women, as in the bible lessons, are selling us into slavery.

"When women can support themselves, have entry to all the trades and professions with a house of their own over their heads and a bank account, they will own their bodies and be dictators in the social realm." -- Elizabeth Cady Stanton

here is how smart these people are

"I have to march because my mother could not have an abortion!" -- Maxine Waters, US House of Representatives, Democrat


"The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist." -- (National NOW Times, Jan. 1988)


*N* *O* *W* Action Alert -- October 20, 1999 -- Fathers' Rights Bill Advances in the House. This Action alert explains that the Father's Rights legislation before Congress is "bad for women and children" because it will "promote marriage" and "disseminat[e] information about the advantages of marriage", "promote successful parenting" and "disseminat[e] information about good parenting practices", and "help fathers and their families ... leave ... welfare". A plain reading of the Action Alert shows that when read in full context NOW will do ANYTHING to destroy marriages, families, and even children. -- No DNC

"Women have no sympathy... And my experience of women is almost as large as Europe. And it is so intimate too. Women crave for being loved, not for loving. They scream at you for sympathy all day long, they are incapable of giving you any in return for they cannot remember your affairs long enough to do so." -- Florence Nightingale

"Not merely about equal rights for women ... Feminism aspires to be much more than this. It bids to be a totalizing scheme resting on a grand theory, one that is as all-inclusive as Marxism, as assured of its ability to unmask hidden meanings as Freudian psychology, and as fervent in its condemnation of apostates as evangelical fundamentalism. Feminist theory provides a doctrine of original sin: The world’s evil’s originate in male supremacy." -- Daphne Patai and Noretta Koertge, Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies, p.183 (***Note: Patai & Koertge write from a critical perspective of where feminism has been going and use the above in the context of an example to illustrate their case. See Daphne Patai's website here: http://www.daphnepatai.com/ And read about her work here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_Patai )


"Our culture, including all that we are taught in schools and universities, is so infused with patriarchal thinking that it must be torn up root and branch if genuine change is to occur. Everything must go - even the allegedly universal disciplines of logic, mathematics and science, and the intellectual values of objectivity, clarity and precision on which the former depend."


anyone care to look up feminist algebra?
and how logic will be banned as male thinking?

watch who and why you side with...


Artfldgr says:

Here is a piece that was written 700 years ago

“This female clock is really driving me mad, for her quarrelsome din doesn’t stop for a moment. The tongue of a quarrelsome woman never tires of chiming in. She even drowns out the sound of the church bell. A nagging wife couldn’t care less whether her words are wise of foolish, provided that the sound of her own voice can be heard. She simply pursues her own ends; there’s not a grain of sense in what she says; in fact she finds it impossible to have a decent thought. She doesn’t want her husband to be the boss and finds fault with everything he does. Rightly or wrongly, the husband has no choice: he has to put up with the situation and keep his mouth shut if he wants to remain in one piece. No man, however self disciplined or clear sighted he may be, can protect himself adequately against this. A husband has to like what the wife likes, and disapprove of what she hates and criticize what she criticizes so that her opinions appear to be right. So anyone who wishes to immolate himself on the altar of marriage will have a lot to put up with. Fifteen times, both day and night, he will suffer without respite and he will be sorely tormented. Indeed, I believe that this torture is worse than the torments of hell, with its chains, fire, and iron.”

pretty much covers all their politics doesnt it? from Le Fèvre's translation (c. 1371-2)the Liber lamentationum Matheoluli, written around 1295 by Mathieu of Boulogne (via a recent translation from Le Fèvre's by Karen Pratt, in Woman Defamed and Woman Defended: An Anthology of Medieval Texts, Oxford University Press, 1992


meanwhile... all the advances and things... were done by real women working hard...

the feminists havent dont a think for real women but hurt them, and convince them that they cant do what they are already doing without them.


Artfldgr says:

as to democrats...

Democrats like to define themselves as the party of poor and middle-income Americans, but a new study says they now represent the majority of the nation's wealthiest congressional districts.

In a state-by-state, district-by-district comparison of wealth concentrations based on Internal Revenue Service income data, Michael Franc, vice president of government relations at the Heritage Foundation, found that the majority of the nation's wealthiest congressional jurisdictions were represented by Democrats.

He also found that more than half of the wealthiest households were concentrated in the 18 states where Democrats hold both Senate seats....

Mr. Franc's study also showed that contrary to the Democrats' tendency to define Republicans as the party of the rich, "the vast majority of unabashed conservative House members hail from profoundly middle-income districts."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/22/AR2007112201089.html

Quoting Dr Sanity...

http://drsanity.blogspot.com/


much to the puzzlement and subsequent rage of these same intellectuals, in those places in the world where socialist and communist theory had triumphed, wealth was disappearing; initiative was in decline; and the human misery index was climbing. This was the legacy of Marx's "social justice".


...a successful middle class demands that government answer to them, and not the other way around. Democracies are not developed or sustained by the political extremes- they are the trust and legacy of a vibrant, functioning middle class....

In the most successful societies there is a large middle class, and anyone has the potential to succeed if they have a good idea, commitment to work and plenty of drive. America, Canada, the UK, Australia and Israel are all examples of societies that while very different, are very successful. As barriers to entry into the middle class becomes more onerous and difficult, requiring expensive and hard to obtain permits and licenses; societies are less successful and become progressively more likely to fail. The nations of the Arab world is a good example of that. There is no middle class in most of the middle east; only an elite, plundering class who are the beneficiaries of the oil wealth the land is blessed with; and a lower class, condemned by the elites to poverty, ignorance and oppression.

the democrats want to remove the middle class.. and they call for taxes on the rich... but the democrats are the richest...

they know that the tax will not fall on them because they will bribe the politicians, and they ahve more money than the republicans do to do it with, including foreign dollars.

how else would a poor man be one of the highest contributors here in america AND others in england?

and thats happening only on the left.


as i have explained... in russia there is eitehr poor or rich... middle class are the only people with numbers and means to oppose things..

they wish to take it all away and regulate your life... they have coopted the game and are selling us into slavery...


here is another piece..

The 10 PLANKS stated in the Communist Manifesto and some of their American counterparts are...

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.
Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Americans know this as misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc...).

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking.

6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.
Americans call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Americans call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture… Thus read "controlled or subsidized" rather than "owned"… This is easily seen in these as well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.

8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Americans call it Minimum Wage and slave labor like dealing with our Most Favored Nation trade partner; i.e. Communist China. We see it in practice via the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.
Americans call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136. These provide for forced relocations and forced sterilization programs, like in China.

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
Americans are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, but are actually "government force-tax-funded schools " Even private schools are government regulated. The purpose is to train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" . These are used so that all children can be indoctrinated and inculcated with the government propaganda, like "majority rules", and "pay your fair share". WHERE are the words "fair share" in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26)?? NO WHERE is "fair share" even suggested !! The philosophical concept of "fair share" comes from the Communist maxim, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need! This concept is pure socialism. ... America was made the greatest society by its private initiative WORK ETHIC ... Teaching ourselves and others how to "fish" to be self sufficient and produce plenty of EXTRA commodities to if so desired could be shared with others who might be "needy"... Americans have always voluntarily been the MOST generous and charitable society on the planet.



Artfldgr says:

The Psychopathy Checklist - Revised (PCL-R)
http://www.swin.edu.au/victims/resources/assessment/personality/psychopathy_checklist.html

Items in the Hare Psychopathy Checklist - Revised

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Glibness/superficial charm

Grandiose sense of self-worth

Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom

Pathological lying

Conning/manipulative

Lack of remorse or guilt

Shallow affect

Callous/lack of empathy

Parasitic lifestyle

Poor behavioral control

Promiscuous sexual behavior


Failure to accept responsibility for own actions

Many short-term relationships / cheating

Criminal versatility

thats not all of them... but the most important ones.. and mostly they are focused on the ones that are clinical... when there are a whole host of otehrs that are not clinical by avoidance, or smarts and ability.


if one were to apply this to all the candidates... who would be the one that comes us shortest as a sociopath?

whose children are good and not in trouble?
who hasnt cheated on their mate?
who hasnt lied or said things of convenience?
whos prior relationships all crow how wonderful they are, or how bad?

add a few if you want...

read this carefully

now lets see a description....
http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm


Imagine - if you can - not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern for the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members. Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken.

And pretend that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools.

Now add to this strange fantasy the ability to conceal from other people that your psychological makeup is radically different from theirs. Since everyone simply assumes that conscience is universal among human beings, hiding the fact that you are conscience-free is nearly effortless.

You are not held back from any of your desires by guilt or shame, and you are never confronted by others for your cold-bloodedness. The ice water in your veins is so bizarre, so completely outside of their personal experience, that they seldom even guess at your condition.

In other words, you are completely free of internal restraints, and your unhampered liberty to do just as you please, with no pangs of conscience, is conveniently invisible to the world.

You can do anything at all, and still your strange advantage over the majority of people, who are kept in line by their consciences will most likely remain undiscovered.

How will you live your life?

What will you do with your huge and secret advantage, and with the corresponding handicap of other people (conscience)?

The answer will depend largely on just what your desires happen to be, because people are not all the same. Even the profoundly unscrupulous are not all the same. Some people - whether they have a conscience or not - favor the ease of inertia, while others are filled with dreams and wild ambitions. Some human beings are brilliant and talented, some are dull-witted, and most, conscience or not, are somewhere in between. There are violent people and nonviolent ones, individuals who are motivated by blood lust and those who have no such appetites. [...]

Provided you are not forcibly stopped, you can do anything at all.

If you are born at the right time, with some access to family fortune, and you have a special talent for whipping up other people's hatred and sense of deprivation, you can arrange to kill large numbers of unsuspecting people. With enough money, you can accomplish this from far away, and you can sit back safely and watch in satisfaction. [...]

Crazy and frightening - and real, in about 4 percent of the population....

The prevalence rate for anorexic eating disorders is estimated a 3.43 percent, deemed to be nearly epidemic, and yet this figure is a fraction lower than the rate for antisocial personality. The high-profile disorders classed as schizophrenia occur in only about 1 percent of [the population] - a mere quarter of the rate of antisocial personality - and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say that the rate of colon cancer in the United States, considered "alarmingly high," is about 40 per 100,000 - one hundred times lower than the rate of antisocial personality.

The high incidence of sociopathy in human society has a profound effect on the rest of us who must live on this planet, too, even those of us who have not been clinically traumatized. The individuals who constitute this 4 percent drain our relationships, our bank accounts, our accomplishments, our self-esteem, our very peace on earth.

Yet surprisingly, many people know nothing about this disorder, or if they do, they think only in terms of violent psychopathy - murderers, serial killers, mass murderers - people who have conspicuously broken the law many times over, and who, if caught, will be imprisoned, maybe even put to death by our legal system.

We are not commonly aware of, nor do we usually identify, the larger number of nonviolent sociopaths among us, people who often are not blatant lawbreakers, and against whom our formal legal system provides little defense.

Most of us would not imagine any correspondence between conceiving an ethnic genocide and, say, guiltlessly lying to one's boss about a coworker. But the psychological correspondence is not only there; it is chilling. Simple and profound, the link is the absence of the inner mechanism that beats up on us, emotionally speaking, when we make a choice we view as immoral, unethical, neglectful, or selfish.

Most of us feel mildly guilty if we eat the last piece of cake in the kitchen, let alone what we would feel if we intentionally and methodically set about to hurt another person.

Those who have no conscience at all are a group unto themselves, whether they be homicidal tyrants or merely ruthless social snipers.

The presence or absence of conscience is a deep human division, arguably more significant than intelligence, race, or even gender.

What differentiates a sociopath who lives off the labors of others from one who occasionally robs convenience stores, or from one who is a contemporary robber baron - or what makes the difference betwen an ordinary bully and a sociopathic murderer - is nothing more than social status, drive, intellect, blood lust, or simple opportunity.

What distinguishes all of these people from the rest of us is an utterly empty hole in the psyche, where there should be the most evolved of all humanizing functions. [Martha Stout, Ph.D., The Sociopath Next Door] (highly recommended)


Artfldgr says:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/sanity_1.PdF
the mask of sanity is free online since its out of print.


La Russophobe says:

You know, Artfldgr, you really should make your own blog, you can do it for free on blogger or wordpress, and then you could publish your comments there and just link to them here and elsewhere with a brief description. It would be a much better way of expressing your views without overwhelming a particular post you are interested in.


Manuela says:

Is it that serious? There were a bunch of them in the race. Obama and Hitlery are the last two standing? As a non American, I am interested only in their views on foreign policy, but well it doesn't look good, does it?


armchair pessimist says:

Democrat politicians don't have a foreign policy because they don't really believe the rest of the world exists, or if they do it's as a sort of spirit world, not really solid, not really 'there'. The spirits most of whom dwell on a distant plane known as thethirdworld are very wise and are always angry at us for our national sins, but they can be appeased with ritual charms and observance. Saying diplomacy is a very powerful magic charm. The UN is a kind of rain dance. Perform these rites faithfully. and we can all devote our attention to the pleasant affairs of this world. Government programs, beltway politicking, pandering to interest groups, plundering the American taxpayer.

But very tangible and down to earth spirits like Mr Putin will likely give President Hillary or Jimmy Cater Obama a most solid boot in the arse.


Artfldgr says:

I will consider it Kim...

its actually a good idea.. (i have two for other things).

its hard to cover some things in small bites... politics is one of the things that doesnt lend well to it, nor does biology and the harder sciences...

the WORST part is that most people are vastly uneducated in history, and medicine, and such that one cant just simply refer to something, and let it go at that.

if i would just say that Putin et al, are sociopaths, most wouldnt understand waht that means as the MSM concepts of that do not match the reality of that.

in many ways, they have succeeded in breaking the words and the culture to the point where the wealth of knowlege that could be refered to and traded by a reference has dropped till everything is verbally grinding.

in the recent past kids would listen to floyd and hear them say "hanging on in quiet desperation is the english way", but how many would know that they were referncing thoreau and his ideas and such with a sentence and get the full concept?

sorry i got carried away...

its just frustrating to sit in one place and hear everyone talking and talking and talking and not getting to far because their premises are all wrong, or they cant identify what it is, but have to dance around it since our lives, education, and experiences have been chopped off.

it doesnt take long after you study the actions of this subset of people and compare the changes (not the promises) with what such a person would want.

in a second someone like Stalin or Mao become clear... (both kept western movies and such, as well as had concubines and so on and so forth - they fit the mold of the competent sociopath perfectly)


now that you know that this is what they are, analysis becomes easier. you no longer have to search for a way to fit the actions into the concept of a normal compasionate person, and you no longer trust anything they say without careful analysis of what the game is.

one thing that is certain from the literary work, and from studies, since they feel no guilt, there is no remorse, with no remorse there is no reason to change or care.

the state reflects the leaders when they are this way, and so the state becomes sociopathic, and here is the key.

they cant be cured... which is why kenan suggested containment as a way thru the cold war (not overthrow). until they are replaced there is only one outcome, and blind idealist that make up the masses that get fooled give them their power. they already have their state... and so the only purpose to all these games is to acquire all the states. after all, if you get that far, such a type thinks they can always go farther.

thanks for your patience kim.


Talnik says:

Artfldgr:
"only in america do people think that the wives of politicians acquire skill and information through some form of osmosis by sleeping in the same room with them (but that others that may sleep with them never stay long enough for the transfer" Ever hear of Argentina?
Well, you've certainly proved your point that "the WORST part is that most people are vastly uneducated in history"






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