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We are at War with Neo-Soviet Russia

Filed under: Georgia

Whether we fully realize it yet is another question.

Here's a little imagination exercise: The United States has presidential elections scheduled for November 2008. Let's just imagine that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran comes to visit the United Nations next week, and while he's here he uses some of his country's oil revenues to buy himself a few thousand protesters (he can get them off the rack at Moveon.org, cheaper by the dozen; a few members of Congress might even come along). Let's say they go down to Washington DC and camp outside the White House. They hang George Bush (let's say he's only on his first term) in effigy and call him a terrorist. They call for his impeachment, and they won't leave no matter what until Bush agrees to move up the November elections to January and stand for reelection right away.

Should he do it? Should he prove to this cadre of wackos, lackeys of a foreign rogue regime, that the country really supports him?

Well, that's what Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili has agreed to do, in a nutshell. So much for him being anti-democratic! Can one be sure we would be as democratic in his shoes? In Russia, we know for sure than many of these protesters would already be dead or in jail -- Russia never lets such protests get started in the first place. That is the most fundamental reason why Russia is a creaking wreck of a country hurtling towards oblivion.

Russia is now doing in Georgia exactly what it has already tried and failed to do in Ukraine -- use street protests by stooges to force the regime to call elections. It lost those elections in Ukraine, and we saw Yulia Timoshenko rise to power. Having failed, it's doggedly trying again in Georgia.

It will fail again. And when it does, it will not stop. It will move to yet another level of barbarity, outrage and attack, and like the Terminator it will not stop until it has destroyed itself or regained these nations as slave states. The lessons of history mean nothing to Russians, nor do the lives of Russian citizens. Only the great imaginary "destiny" of Russia itself.

Our duty is clear. But will we do it?

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Comments


Russian Bear says:

Vow! La Russophobe declared war to Russia!
How many divisions does La Russophobe have?
How about nukes?

And you tell me Americans are not agressors and warmongers after this?


La Russophobe says:

How can I be an aggressor if I have no divisions and don't speak for the country? If I am insignificant, I who WROTE this post, then what does that say about YOU, who merely comment upon it? Do you think AT ALL before you spew your self-contradictory gibberish? Are you even capable of thought?

We're not the aggressors you stupid dumbass, you started this by attempting to unseat governments in Ukraine and Georgia just as in Soviet times. You unilaterally pulled out of the CFE treaty, not us. You supplied weapons to Hugo Chavez, nukes to Iran, money to Hamas. We didn't support the Chechen rebels. Your crude, crass, childish neo-Soviet propaganda will lead Russia to the same fate met by the USSR.

In other words, we didn't start it but we're going to finish it.

In case you haven't noticed, Senator McCain has called for your ouster from the G-8 and President Bush is filling Europe with a missile defense system. Leaders of Germany and France and UK have condemned Russia and are moving to create an energy cartel that will block Gazprom, while NATO reaches out to embrace Ukraine and Georgia.

Instead of seeking peace, you seek to provoke a country with an economy twelve times larger than yours and population twice as large, a suicidal path identical to the one the USSR pursued.

Have fun in the ashcan of history, simpleton!


Vova says:

Kim, you are right on, but we are going to hell in a handbasket while the B43 team--not the A-team by any stretch--is completely incompetent AND fearful of provoking the hard-left politicians and the media. So they shup up lest they are asked "And what are you going to do about it?" to which they do not have an answer.
Remember, B41 knew that Clinton went to Moscow and Prague in 1968, and Clinton did not deny it; he just quietly told B41 that the subject was off limits, and B41 complied.
Personally, I hope "Russia" blows up before it can do much harm


La Russophobe says:

VOVA:

Couldn't agree more. Well said! Basically, that's why I'm blogging in a nutshell.


Vova says:

It is though (in knowledgeable circles) that C42, if he was recruited, was signed up by the CPSU CC ID and not Malignant Little Troll's old kontora, and the reason the right shut up is because they were afraid that it might even lead to a mutiny in the armed forces.
My question to you: Had we had blogging then, would the outcome in 1992 been different?


American Eagle Cries 911 says:

Hi, I wanted to spew some self-contradictory gibberish if thats ok. I want to do this because I am completely incapable of thought.

I just wanted to point out that calling that guy a "dumbass" who "started this by ..." is not at all childish. And that the opinions of somebody who says that they do not speak of the American people and then proceeds to speak for the American people are as valuable as the tears of democracy lovers the world over.
Also it is not at all hypocritical or absurd to contradict and embarrass oneself in the above mentioned manner and then call anybody childish. As for senator McCain, I love that man, he is my favorite senator because he is the best at loosing any possible political significance by failing so spectacularly at running for president.
I can't wait until NATO reaches out and injects raw freedom into the veins of Georgia and Ukraine thereby solving all of their economic and infrastructural problems. Because vague generalized concepts open to interpretation are definitely the way to go as far as solving problems is concerned. I can't wait to see this "ashcan of history" you speak of, I wonder if I will see the U.S there with it's historically unbelievable deficit, it's weakened international standing, it's incredibly thinly stretched military, and millions upon millions of illegal immigrant workers driving down the wages of its citizens.

so you too have fun in the ashcan of history, right along with us oh wonderfully intelligent and truly free individual that you are!


armchair pessimist says:

I wonder if I will see the U.S there with it's historically unbelievable deficit, it's weakened international standing, it's incredibly thinly stretched military, and millions upon millions of illegal immigrant workers driving down the wages of its citizens.

Yes, I'm pretty sure you will.


Russian Bear says:

To LR

And you...! And You...! And You...
You are the worst bully in the world. Your ignorant citizens know the names of the other countries not becase the learned a piece of geography, but mostly because the USA bombed those countries.
In 1992 Russia all-hearteddly trusted you but you arrogant leadership was happy to become the only superpower and took advantage of it.
You staged and directed conflict in Yougoslavia to finish that proud independent country, you expanded NATO to the Russia's bordedr you, came out of ABM ban treaty, You are digging under the Russia walls to plant a barrels of gun powder there by setting your ABM defens system. You have the biggest military budget in the world and the most powerful armed forsec and still want more. Why? To be able to dictate you will
to the world. Your military is unsatiable.

Your messianic missiom is a failure. You have been sucking blood from Latin America and supported all the bloody dictators there for 2 centures, and now "gringo" is a swear word in that part of the world. And you are not happy with Hugo Chavez after that, because his only sin is being anti-american. And how about Iraq to become a "lighthouse of democracy" for the Middle East? Same will be with your other projects.
Same with Georgia and Ukraine and Russia. You just do not understand that building democracy is not buying it from Uncle Sam's grocery store and brining it home. It is a long process that goes naturally and takes time.
The USA has exosted her resourses for growth. What is going to grow there are USA problems. USA will fall like the dollar is falling now. Pax Americana project failed. In 50 years the USA will be the 3-rd or the 5-th. The future belongs to other nations.
Russia is one of them. RUSSIANS ARE COMING!

PS. Vova, you are moodak (moo-dahk)


Democracy makes me SO hard says:

PUTIN RAPES INFANTS !!!
Can't your see that he is working for Satan!!! his evil evil authoritarianism will KILL Russia (Russians are scum they can do better!). As it is The Russian neo-Liberal socialist communism will DESTROY that country. As it is in fifty (50) years Russia will have a population of 3 people and there will be 30 million abortions a year!!! Statistics do not change year to year this will happen!!!! STALIN . BUT DO NOT WORRY America land of the free home of the brave the happiest place on earth will purge this blight from our planet (and I do mean OUR planet). We will crush all resistance to democracy as brutally as such enemies deserve to be crushed, THERE WILL BE NO MERCY!!! ONLY DEATH AND RAW DEMOCRACY RIGHT IN YOUR FACE Those who do not want democracy will be sold as chattels because they are less than human (YOU CAN DO BETTER !!@!!$!). Putin is both SATAN and HITLER he is the Antichrist come to authoritarianate us all. We shall destroy all FASCIST, non free market countries, and TRANSFORM them into free market UTOPIAS like Mexico. HAIL DEMOCRACY, HAIL FREEDOM, HAIL LIBERTY. DEATH TO THE ENEMIES OF THE DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE OF EARTH FREEDOM AND FREE MARKETS.


Evangelic says:

Russia is headed for a big surprise. They will regain their former glory only to be destroyed by God himself when they attack Israel with certain Arab nations. It is uncertain where the US will be when this occurs. And this will happen in do time. Watch and see.


George Comney says:

Orthodox church has much apology to make in Western World: protocommunist massacres by Palamite Zealotes under Hesychast hyperventilatory halucinations, Cantacuzene taxation driving farmers to embrace Turks, Komyakoviac Obshchina giving birth to soviet communism as reactionary casuistry opposing Napoleon's defeudalization, Cosmus Aitalius being patron originator of of modern genocide as seen by the massacre of Turks in Crete by Venizelos. And their hypnotic brainwashing incantations are designed to make theirf locks into terrorists. Is all masochistic because reject Original Sin.


Martin Friglan says:

Russia's oil wealth will only last five years or so. Then they will be the emperor without clothes, trying to walk on a tightrope that disappeared between two mountains. The famous fund manager Jim Rogers has said that after that, Russia will be broken up into small pieces.


Claire E Chitty says:

Just an outside opinion guys. im english and rather than having a side in this shit like to class my self as more of an observer rather than someone who has the answer. i dont believe the cold war ever ended firstly.
the begining or the start
1. when ussr were in in afganistan the rise of the russian mafia was instantaneious (even though well estasblished through kgb cells)
2.its of my belief that the reason france and germany didnt vote to go to war on iraq was due to debt of upto 50 billion pounds, they new if the yanks were there they wernt going to see it.
3 russia had all sorts of financial situations and internal power struggles and in the process of the it splitting up into factions the yanks and my lot smelt blood.
4. drugs is the second biggest export business in the world second to only oil. however if you add up all of the industries and services theat are effected by the trade there is a second total.
5 russia already had links with iran and iraq, and although bad ones with iraq initially it alrtered when we were playing saddam hussiene like a puppet glove and he inventually forming new political links with his previous foes the russians.
5. (this is theory) what would have to happen in america and the rest of the world to have an access all areas pass with public support (as much as possible)
6. england the last few years has now opened up our doors to various ex red states, offers to support them house them, sometimes better than our own, the question i have is do you think this is for a reason


conclussion


in this democratic world its not acceptable for countries like ours for no reason to start bombing inocents our peoples dont like this shit however through the mediums of media manipulation, fear, intelligence strategies we came up with

setting up the twin towers to blow up and shock the whole of the world, the world was uneasy for a few days was it not remember and remeber it well friends. a war was announced to persicute the offenders of terrorism = terrorism an unseen power a network of cells capable of anything, even being as unreal as they are real, bang democracy has it publics support for the campaign or enough for it to go on, we step into afganistan bang ussr drug trade has just plumited, bang we are in iraq there oil arrangments with iraq and black ops dealing with the french issolated, bang we have encompassed red block countries in the Eu, ussr going mad about as now we have the right for missile defence against russia. we are systematically squeezing russia for all its worth and for some reason (sacasm no one knows. there are some smaller events that have tacken place as well just indicaters, the russian spy plaines that we have been recieving for last couple of years, and vicer versa. eighteen months as so or go russia china iran tezikstain and someone else took part in war games some of the bigest in the last twenty years, this was tacken as an unofficial message as a declaration of alligence and was interpretated by the yanks as a message of intent.

last note
fundemently all of our nations are different but basically as people we all want the same a good time, nice parner, be comfterble, kids not to be hooked on herione that our own goverment have bought in, kids not getting bombed on the way to school or some sick fuck to abuse them. we all have some common ground, its all natural to be supportive of our own team but guess what there as bigger wankers as the enemy, if any body half agrees with some of the stuff i have said or gave it any thought you may apprciate that i feel i woke up to day and found out my mum and dad are serial killers, you love em cos youve always loved em but fuck there sick, boys and girls our goverments are, and i sugest rather than crtisise each other pesonally and debate whos wrong or right you look at youre own team, i give any body to 2-1 odds on them all being the same type of people and they dont dont represent me, so wat about u


Claire E Chitty says:

napoleon "let china sleep, but when she awakes the world will rumble"


A CHILD OF GOD says:

FIRST OFF LETS THANK GOD FOR EVEN BEING ABLE TO HAVE THESE INTELIGENT CONVERSATIONS LIKE THIS. I'M SORRY THAT YOU ALL THINK THAT ALL AMERICANS ARE SO TERRIABLE , I TRULY AM , I GUESS THATS JUST HOW YOU WHERE RAISED , I DON'T KNOW. I FOR ONE DON'T AGREE ON THE US INVADING EVERY COUNTRY THAT WE FEEL IS A THREAT ,THE THING THAT REALLY MAKES ME LAUGH IS THAT , WHAT IS A AMERICAN ? IT'S A LITTLE OF EVERY CULTURE WHEATHER IT BE IRISH , ENGLISH, FRENCH , MEXICAN , CUBAN, OR EVEN RUSSIAN , WE ALL MAKE AMERICA (in one form or another) ITS JUST WHO WE ARE, FREE SPIRTED PEOPLE WHO GET TAKEN ADVANTAGE FROM OUR GOVERMENT ,JUST LIKE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US IN THE WORLD , IM SORRY THAT PEOPLE DON'T AGREE ON THE USA WAYS, NOT ALL AMERICANS AGREE ON THEM BUT THERE STILL OUR WAYS . IM NOT SORRY FOR BEING AMERICAN, IM NOT PROUD OF WHAT WE DO ALL THE TIME OR BUT I AM BLESSED TO BE AN AMERICAN . THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE THE US TO DO IS TO GET BIN LADEN, BUT THATS FOR MY OWN SELFISH REASONS.
BUT THEN AGAIN WHO AM I TO ASK FOR VINGENCE
, AFTER ALL THATS FOR JESUS , AND AS FOR YOU
RUSSIAN BEAR , YOUR WRONG THE LORD IS COMING NOT RUSSIA !!!!!!!!!!!


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