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Christopher Hitchens of Slate magazine seems to have noticed in the recent news that Iran has been found to have suspended its nuclear weapons program in 2003 what few others have, namely that "our overthrow of Saddam Hussein had impressed the Iranians in much the same way as it impressed the Libyans and made them at least reconsider their willingness to continue flouting the Non-Proliferation Treaty." Hitchens further notes: "Given that the examination of the immense Libyan stockpile also disclosed the fingerprints that led back to the exposure of the A.Q. Khan nuke-mart in Pakistan, the removal of Saddam from the chessboard has had more effect in curbing the outlaw WMD business than it is normally given credit for."

So, not only did George Bush's invasion of Iraq usher in many years of the total absence of terrorist events on our homeland (we've just reported that Russia, for instance, has experienced three terrorist bus bombings in the last six weeks alone), but it can also be argued to have cowed the Iranians into giving up their nuclear weapons plans.

There's no doubt that, as Hitchens points out, the Bush administration fell down on the job as far as recognizing this reality and capitalizing on it politically, but we must confront the reality of how one-sided and unfair many attacks on Bush have been, especially given the fact that the genesis of the Iraq invasion was in the Clinton administration.

And there's equally no doubt that Hitchens is right in saying: "It is completely false for anybody to claim, on the basis of this admitted 'estimate,' that Iran has ceased to be a candidate member of the fatuously named nuclear 'club.' It has the desire to acquire the weaponry, it retains the means to do so, and it has been caught lying and cheating about the process." So Bush is right on overall strategy as well.

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Artfldgr says:

Iran didnt suspend it, what it did was move all the research to "dual use" areas for the meantime. in this way, they can deny that they are working towards a weapon, but instead are trying to supply energy needs.

ok... ask yourself why one of the wealthiest oil countries would think that nuclear energy was cheaper than what they have in abundance?

that no one 'notices' this is a farce.

here is some info from nuclear power as energy. http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/thyd/ne161/ncabreza/sources.html

What most people don't realize is that most of what they hear are false rumors started by anti-nuclear activists.

so in essence our greenies are the ones that have kept us on oil and greenhouse gas usage for the past 40 years based on a pool of lies. they are leftists, and so they know that if the US dotted the country with lots of nuclear plants, we would get a huge boost in productivity, while mother russia would get a kick in the oil pants.

The waste nuclear power plants generate is all contained and none of it is released into the environment. This, however, does not hold true for the other major sources of power. A typical 1000-megawatt coal-burning plant emits 100,000 tons of sulphur dioxide, 75,000 tons of nitrogen oxides, and 5000 tons of fly ash into the environment per year while a typical 1000-megawatt oil-burning plant emits about 16,000 tons of sulphur dioxide and 20,000 tons of nitrogen oxides.

Iran does not care as to how much tons of stuff it spits into the air (most such states, including mother russia, are HORRIBLE on the environment. capitalists see an environment that is clean as a sourve of revenue, the others sense of what is worth is so undeveloped that they cant see this)

Because the fuel used in nuclear power plants exist in abundant supply, the price is very cheap, unlike for fossil fuels where the supply is finite and slowly diminishing. A typical fuel pellet cost about $7. This one fuel pellet has an equivalent energy of three barrels of oil, which cost $84, or one ton of coal, which cost $29. In 1993, the fossil fuels displaced by nuclear energy totaled: 470 million tons of coal and 96 million barrels of oil which translated to about $17 billion. By using nuclear energy at $7 per pellet, a savings of about $13 billion was generated in just one year.

however, Iran doesnt pay market prices for its oil or coal.


From the beginning of 1990s, Russian Federation formed a joint research organization with Iran called Persepolis which provided Iran with Russian nuclear experts, and technical information stolen from the West by GRU and SVR, according to GRU defector Stanislav Lunev [19]. He said that five Russian institutions, including the Russian Federal Space Agency helped Tehran to improve its missiles. The exchange of technical information with Iran was personally approved by the SVR director Trubnikov [19].

In 1995, Iran signed a contract with Russia to resume work on the partially-complete Bushehr plant,[20] installing into the existing Bushehr I building a 915MWe VVER-1000 pressurized water reactor, with completion expected in 2007. There are no current plans to complete the Bushehr II reactor.

In 1996, the U.S. tried, without success, to block the People's Republic of China from selling to Tehran a conversion plant. The PRC also provided Iran with gas needed to test the uranium enrichment process.

not every plant is a plant of concern though.

Lavizan was under question... and Natanz is a hardened fuel enrichment plant... it was once a secret site... (and most of these sites were being built but never reported as the contracts they signed said only when they are completed do they have to report them, so they stay in a state of never completed, and so never need to be reported and they remain secret).


most people arguing and discussing all this have no idea of what they are talking about. they dont know the difference between a breeder reactor, a heavy water reactor, an enrichment area, etc.

they dont even know the facts as to nuclear power vs nuclear bomb production.

under dual use a police officer cant arrest you for owning a mirror, a razor blade and a box of straws as drug paraphrenalia...

under dual use the inspectors cant judge anything that can be dual use as indicating they are working on something.

just like the mirror, razor blade, and straws, they are not allowed to use those things as evidence (the same game is played with biolgoical weapons factories. which is why they claim things are a pen ink factory.. why pen ink? because the ingredients are the same as those for nerve toxins... the same is true of ordering BT, and building an aerosolized weaponized version of BT, claiming its for insects, when they can switch back and forth between BT and BA at whim)

basically the argumetns are between the ignorant who think they are right becasue they cant see past what they dont know...

and the knowing and methodical, who know that publicly they cant pin them since they are being careful, but that the whole thing doesnt make much sense, unless the ignorant are wrong.

the ignorante are the masses who have empty knee jerk reactions to things, and who cant even explain cogently their position as they never actually arrived at it cogently... it felt good, so they did it.



Artfldgr says:

some comments from people who are not naive and know a bit more about things.

at no time is there a consensus or agreement on this issue. all we have is a report that says soemthing and a bunch of leftist socialists running with it.. and through their din, drowning out the messages that they dont want to hear.

the effect is so strong that even laRussophobe is dragged in by the rule of the con. tell them what they want to hear, and they forget to be critical, no matter how unrealistic what they want to hear is.

the fall of the wall is the same kind of con, a big show that takes all your attention away from the magicians other hand.

British spy chiefs have grave doubts that Iran has mothballed its nuclear weapons programme, as a US intelligence report claimed last week, and believe the CIA has been hoodwinked by Teheran.

The security services in London want concrete evidence to allay concerns that the Islamic state has fed disinformation to the CIA.

A senior British official delivered a withering assessment of US intelligence-gathering abilities in the Middle East and revealed that British spies shared the concerns of Israeli defence chiefs that Iran was still pursuing nuclear weapons.

The source said British analysts believed that Iranian nuclear staff, knowing their phones were tapped, deliberately gave misinformation.


basically.. the US left gets a single report, there are no bombs... the report is not unanimous among the american agencies... the uk agencies dont believe it.. the french agencies dont believe it.. the german agencies dont believe it..

however americans believe it because the left wants to believe it, promotes it, and thinks it will stop the US from acting in its own interests (which allows everyone else to act in their own interests)


the men running Iran’s ‘civilian’ nuclear program are all Commanders and leaders from Iran’s military units:

Twenty-one commanders of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps are the top scientists running Iran’s secret nuclear weapons program, says the man who exposed Iran’s nuclear weapons program in 2002.

On top of that, the U.S. National Intelligence Estimate published last week saying Tehran shut down its weaponization program in 2003 failed to mention that the program restarted in mid-2004, said Alireza Jafarzadeh, an Iranian dissident and president of Strategic Policy Consulting.

The scientists working on the alleged civilian nuclear centrifuge program are IGRC commanders, said Jafarzadeh, who was providing a list of names to the press on Tuesday. But their intention is not a nuclear energy source for civilians.

“It’s the IRGC that is basically controlling the whole thing, dominating the whole thing,” Jafarzadeh told FOXNews.com. “They are running the show. They have a number of sites controlled by the IRGC that has been off-limits to the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) and inspectors, including a military university known as Imam Hossein University. … That site has not been inspected. They have perhaps the most advanced nuclear research and development center in that university.”

this whole thing, as i said before, would be every attempt and try to stop the door to weapons and destabilization from being closed.

months ago i said that it will get ridiculous... and it has... from swedish bombers in turkey... marxist insurgents in turkey as well... events in pakistan... war simmering in isreal...

i said it will be like someone running around the house turning on every faucet, ever switch, every appliance... all in an effort to distract from the key stone - IRAN.


what isreal bombed in neighboring syria was not a nuclear plant.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/926815.html

and the facility i mentioned above htat was for inrichment... it was concrete hardened and under 22 meters of earth... 75 feet of earth over yards of concrete...

but their only baking cookies.

The reason this NIE is clearly a fraud is not just all the contradictory information it ignores, it is the clear statement of policy instead of a finding of fact that an NIE is meant to address. It is not meant to promote a policy by cherry picking data - clearly what someone has done here as noted by Bret Stephens in the WSJ:

But the NIE’s real purpose becomes clear in the next sentence, when it states that Iran’s behavior “suggests that some combination of threats of intensified international scrutiny and pressures, along with opportunities for Iran to achieve its security, prestige and goals for regional influence in other ways, might–if perceived by Iran’s leaders as credible–prompt Tehran to extend the current halt to its nuclear weapons program.”

This is a policy prescription, not an intelligence assessment.

It is a disaster is what it is. By isolating the question down to one weapon design program to fit a nuke warhead on a missile the NIE led all sorts of gullible people to assume Iran was not pursuing nuclear weapons.



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