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The Laughable Fraud that is the Daily Kos

Filed under: US Elections

If you've long thought that the Daily Kos is a ridiculous fraud masquerading as a potent political force, you now have your proof. DK is currently running a poll in which it asks where its readers live, in congressional districts ranging from really-really-Republican to done-deal-Democrat. With over 10,000 votes tallied, the overwhelming winner from a continuum of 10 choices is "a Democrat with no chance of losing in 2008." 2.5 times more respondents answered this than the next-most-chosen option, namely "a Republican with no chance of losing in 2008." These two choices accounted for 70% of all respondents, meaning that the overwhelming majority of Kozniacs live in congressional districts where their political behavior means absolutely nothing.

In another poll, the overwhelming preference of the Kozniac nation was the rejection of not only religion but also spirituality, and only 5% of readers self-identified as religious. That figures, since they are doing Satan's bidding.

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Jeff Steele, DC says:

Yes, but these voters don't just live in congressional districts. There is a presidential election, after all. Among others. duh! Please reread what "you" wrote in _The Federalist_.


La Russophobe says:

I believe it's fairly common knowledge that most congressional district vote for president the same way they voted for congress. Party affiliations, and so forth. Especially in places where the party's stand no chance of losing their congressional seats, as here, this is going to be true.


Artfldgr says:

Actually its the electoral college that votes for president, and they most of the time side with the people. but they HAVE voted differently than the people.


http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/case/3pt/electoral.html

The Electoral College System

The actual mechanism of electing the president and the vice president of the United States is a rather complicated process. The electoral college is one of the many compromises written into the t United States Constitution in 1787. The founding fathers devised the electoral college to elect the president but they did not anticipate the emergence of national political parties or a communications network able to bring presidential candidates before the entire electorate.

Providing that the president be chosen indirectly through the "electoral college" rather than directly by the voters in November was one of the founders' hedges against "popular passion." In the beginning, the electors had very real powers to work their will. Now, their sole function is to confirm a decision made by the electorate six weeks earlier.

Under the Constitution, each state is authorized to choose electors for president and vice president, the number always being the same as the combined number of U.S. senators and representatives allotted to that state. With 100 senators and 435 representatives in the United States, plus three electors for the District of Columbia provided by the Twenty-third Amendment, the total electoral college vote is 538.

Makeup and operation of the electoral college itself are tightly defined by the Constitution, but the method of choosing electors is left to the states. In the beginning many states did not provide for popular election of the presidential electors. Today, however, electors are chosen by direct popular vote in every state. When voters vote for president, they are actually voting for the electors pledged to their presidential candidate. (Electors are named by state party organizations. Serving as an elector is considered an honor, a reward for faithful service.)

With the political parties in control of presidential politics, the function of the electoral college has changed drastically. Rather than having individuals seek to become electors and then vote for whomever they please for president, the parties have turned the process upside down by arranging slates of electors, all pledged to support the candidate nominated by the party.

In the earliest days of the electoral college, quite the opposite was true. Electors cast their votes for individual candidates rather than for party slates, with the majority winner being elected president and the runner-up, vice president. This made for some bizarre situations, as in 1796 when the Federalist John Adams, with 71 votes, became president and the Democratic-Republican Thomas Jefferson, with 68, vice president- roughly equivalent in modern times to an election in which Bush and Dukakis would end up as president and vice president. In 1800 Jefferson and his running mate, Aaron Burr, each won an identical number of electoral votes, forcing the election into the House of Representatives, which resolved it in Jefferson's favor. It was to avoid any similar occurrence that the Twelfth Amendment was passed in 1804. This amendment required the electors to cast two separate ballots, one for president and the other for vice president.

This is the only constitutional change that has been made in the electoral college system, other than to add three electoral votes for the District of Columbia in 1961.

Presidential and vice presidential candidates of a party run as a team. In most of the states, it is the names of the candidates rather than the names of the electors that appear on the ballot; in the other states, both candidates and electors are identified. The victor in each state is determined by counting the votes for each slate of electors; the slate receiving the most votes (the plurality, not necessarily the majority of the votes cast) is declared the winner.

To be elected to the presidency a candidate must receive an absolute majority (270) of the electoral votes cast. If no candidate receives a majority, the House of Representatives picks the winner from the top three, with each state delegation in the House casting only one vote, regardless of its size. Only two U.S. elections have been decided this way (1800 and 1824).

The vice president is elected at the same time by the same indirect winner-take-all method that chooses the president, but the electors vote separately for the two offices. If no vice presidential candidate receives a majority, the Senate picks the winner from the top two, each senator voting as an individual. The Senate has not made the choice since 1836.

its kind of interesting to ask people questions about their own political system and find out what their own poltiical system has taught them about itself.


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