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Annals of Neo-Soviet Barbarism

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Yesterday, two different groups of political activists tried to go into the streets to demonstrate in Moscow, Russia. One, shown above, was the "Nashi" ("us Slavic Russians") pro-Kremlin youth cult. They wanted to praise the "victory" of Dmitry Medvedev in the "presidential elections" the day before, and to attack the United States. Not only were they allowed to march, they were allowed to snarl traffic and given widespread media coverage.

Here's what happened to the other group:

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They represented opponents of the elections farce, and sought to protest the Kremlin's systematic exclusion of all viable opposition candidates from the presidential "race." Their leaders were arrested before they even reached the streets and then they were attacked with bloody violence by an army of the Kremlin's stormtroopers.

Make no mistake. Just as the people of Russia chose their president, they also ratified this aftermath. They are as much responsible for this barbaric violence as the Kremlin thugs who ordered it and who carried it out.

The people of Russia have made their choice. Now, we must make ours.

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Vova says:

Wow! Finally you see the light too. Welcome to the club. No disagreement here: "Just as the people of Russia chose their president, they also ratified this aftermath. They are as much responsible for this barbaric violence as the Kremlin thugs who ordered it and who carried it out"
One correction though: That shithole of a cesspit that you call "Russia" is not a country in a tranditional sense. And the vermin and maggots swarming there--I mean the malignant little troll and his pocket Kremlin dwarf and their lackeys--are not thugs. Thugs are men, and these are parasites, helminth. And those who accept this are not people--they are slaves


Vova says:

"The people of Russia have made their choice. Now, we must make ours"
Well, the slaves were told what their choice was, and they had a collective orgasm.
Our choice should be to support all freedom-fighers in Chechnia and Ingushetia and Gaghestan and elsewhere and lend support to every cessesionist and subversive movement, choke them until they degenerate into the neverland


Misha says:

The pro-Kremlin "Nashi" youth group held a peaceful pro-Medvedev march after the election. Over 50,000 people participated in the march. The anti-Kremlin demonstrators were a much smaller group up to their same old tricks (trying to get media attention by staging a confrontation in the streets with police and acting up until the police were forced to oblige them). Their small group started fires in the street, threw bottles and stones, broke vehicle windows and just generally caused a ruckus until police were forced to arrest them. When police finally moved in there were more media people than there were demonstrators.


Misha says:

The pro-Kremlin "Nashi" youth group held a peaceful pro-Medvedev march after the election. Over 50,000 people participated in the march. The anti-Kremlin demonstrators were a much smaller group up to their same old tricks (trying to get media attention by staging a confrontation in the streets with police and acting up until the police were forced to oblige them). Their small group started fires in the street, threw bottles and stones, broke vehicle windows and just generally caused a ruckus until police were forced to arrest them. When police finally moved in there were more media people than there were demonstrators.


elmer says:

So the Moscow Times cannot be trusted to report accurately.

The opposition deliberately throws bottles and stones to deliberately provoke the police - and what's more, they alert the media as to what they are going to do - "force" the police to arrest them.

Ain't it amazin' that the only thing the opposition does in roosha is to "force" the police to arrest them?

Either for snarling traffic, or for throwing bottles and stones and breaking car windows?

Bad, bad opposition for "forcing" the police to arrest them.


Vova says:

Kim, I probably don't have to tell you--I am sure you have figured this out already--but Publius has been penetrated by Comintern. Can you put a condom on Misha before he infects us all?


ridiculous says:

Wow Vova, glad you revealed yourself as a lunatic:

"Our choice should be to support all freedom-fighers in Chechnia and Ingushetia and Gaghestan and elsewhere"

Really, that's what the Chechens are fighting for, freedom? Do you honestly believe that, or is it just a lie you use so you can hate Russia more easily.

The Chechen jihadists are as much freedom fighters as are the Palestinians or the Iraqis (ie, they're not freedom fighters, they're filthy terrorist scum). Somehow, I don't think you'd agree with giving either of the other two groups military aid, right? And if someone did give the jihadists in Iraq aid, would you want to do something about it?

If I hear one more thing about the 'other Russia' demonstrations I will surely scream. There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that Kasparov and his ilk represent anyone other than themselves and the guys with fat wallets over at the AEI (and other similar places). Kasparov is a moron: he stood and cheered while his country imploded throughout the 90's and he chooses now to start protesting? The whole spectacle of Kasparov's deification is as sickening as it is ridiculous.

Pure filth Kim. And what's more, it's not even original filth anymore


Vova says:

Ridi, I cut you some slack due to your monumental ignorance.
I won't go into history but suffice it to say that the Vaynakh (Chechens and Ingush) are proud people with a centuries-old tradition of honor, as are Avar and Lezgin and Kumyk and other people of Daghestan. The Russians, on the other hand, are--socially speaking--a lesser breed, a lower form of life, vastly inferior to real people


Misha says:

Citzens have the right to peacefully assemble and make themselves heard, but most cities require demonstration permits, simply so they can make sure they will have adequate police on hand to keep order, perform traffic control, etc. For example, in the US extra police will be assigned if there is a demonstration by the American Nazi Party, or the KKK, simply because violence can often accompany such demonstrations (either violence by group member and/or by members of opposing groups or members of the general public). In the US the courts have long upheld the right of cities to require permits for marches, demonstrations and protests. It is not a method to repress freedom of speech or assembly, but simply good practical city management. And in Russia things are no different. For example, if there will be a large demonstration, then a city must schedule resources, overtime and so forth. All of this requires the ability of city administrators to plan ahead, hence the practical need for permits.

Weird Al Kasparov and his people insist on demonstrating without obtaining a permit, which is illegal in Moscow, St. Petersburg and many other Russian cities (as it is in almost every city and small town in the USA as well). Why don’t they simply get a demonstration permit and stage peaceful protests? But that would defeat their primary purpose, which is after all to provoke confrontations with the police, which they then portray to the world as the Russian government somehow violating their rights or denying them basic civil liberties. Even though they neglect to get permits for their demonstrations they always carry a large contingent of foreign media in tow to start the cameras rolling just at the moment when police invariably arrive to disburse them.

Kasparov has no base of support in Russia (none). When he is arrested he doesn’t bother to speak to Russian news organizations, instead preferring to speak in English to the foreign press. He is supported by western “NGO” organizations and their backers in western intelligence agencies (such as the US CIA).

As I pointed out earlier, Russia is a nation ruled by a single ruling party, United Russia. This fact alone is not unusual at all, as many nations have been ruled by a single ruling party for decades and even generations, while still maintaining the general outlines of freedom and democracy. (Some examples are Japan, S.Korea, Taiwan, Turkey, Mexico and many other nations.) A single-party state should not be viewed as a constitutional ideal, but rather as a transition phase to a more complete democracy. It would have been unrealistic, for example, to catapult the Empire of Japan into a fully functional multi-party democratic system, without missing a beat, in the immediate aftermath of the Second World War. The same thing applies to Korea, after the Korean War. The single Ruling party imparted stability and order during difficult periods of these countries histories, when they were undergoing large-scale transitions from one system to another. Russia is no different, with the possible exception that the west does not control Russia’s political process and system (which in the final analysis is the only thing about Russia’s circumstance that so enrages them and makes them insane—they have made their peace with single-ruling-party states many times, and with far worse regimes than that).

The time required for transition varies from country to country, but in the examples I gave, Japan was rules by the LDP for 40 years, for example, before an opposition party was finally able to win an election there (only after a massive corruption scandal shook the country). The ruling party in Mexico was in charge for over 100 years before the opposition won.

Weird Al Kasparov and his ilk are not part of the opposition in Russia. To say that someone is the opposition demands that they at least have some base of political support in the country where they claim to be the opposition and Kasparov has none.

Now Russia does have an opposition, but it comes from the right, from right wing ultra-nationalist, xenophobic, and even skin-head and neo-Nazi quarters. These ultra-right groups are officially suppressed by the Russian state, not allowed to run their candidates in Russian elections, ect.

This is why single-party rule of Russia is really a necessary part of Russia’s transition to full democracy. It is felt that with a continued improvement in the economic situation in Russia and an increase in general prosperity, the social and economic factors which contribute to the rise of ultra-right ideology and political activity can be ameliorated. But during the transition period it is necessary for Russia to suppress the opposition to some extent.

United Russia is a big tent, and any Russian of good will with genuine political aspirations can find a place for himself inside that tent. If the Russian government opened up the political field too completely at the present time, and new tents began to sprout up, they would not be the tents of Kasparov and his ilk (who might build a tent on the CIA’s dime but no one would be inside of it). The other tent would instead be the tent of Russia’s ultra-right opposition, which unfortunately is the only genuine opposition in Russia (if “genuine” means having the support of large numbers of people in the actual country in question).


colleen says:

vova you are basically quoting hitler word-for-word.

congratulations you inhuman psycho.


Vova says:

Colleen, Hitler is very popular among the Russian pravoslavny trash you love so much.
Actually Hitler did do one good thing: He killed Ernest Rohm, the head of the brownshirts, German equivalent of Putin's OMON


the chechens, really? says:

So the infidel-beheading Chechens, who want to create a Muslim state ruled by Shariah, are the ones you admire? What about the Taliban, Vova, does their fierce nationalism and sense of "honor" get you riled up too? What about Iran, they too want to expand Islamic influence and Shariah, do you think they're civilized as well? What about our good friends the Saudis?

Just because the Chechens have "honor" doesn't mean they aren't disgusting vermin. Many Muslims mutilate women and stone rape victims to death in the name of "honor."


elmer says:

A one-party system is a NECESSITY to transition to democracy?

I did not thinkthat rooskie balderdash could get any more ridiculous, but there it is.

The former sovok republics and satellites, such as Poland and Ukraine (not the only examples), have managed to develop democracy quite nicely, thank you, without the supposed "necessity" of resorting to a one-party system.

In fact, in Ukraine, where there was a blatant attempt by Kuchma to set up a one party system, by murder, by election fraud, by bribery and corruption, and by a fake opposition, the notion of the "necessity" of a one-party was rejected.

The rooskies seem to be an endless and bottomless explosion of BS and drivel.

It is unbelievable.


Vova says:

Elmer, I agree totally.
As for the previous post, I am tired and not inclined to engage in anthropomorphism. I stand by my word: Proud and honorable Vaynakh and Avars and others vs. the subhuman horde. If you believe that "Russians" are human, you should move over to the warmed up commie puke blog at Russia's ORT TV Channel 1. Or CBS or WaPo or NYT, which is the same.
Get a life. Learn the language--Vaynakh, Circassian, Russian, any, but not the MSM newspeak--then come back.
Jihad is what the pravoslvny trash Russians are waging against the humans.
The "Russians" is what emerged after the minkey-god cross-bred with dogs and pigs


Vova says:

Elmer, I agree totally.
As for the previous post, I am tired and not inclined to engage in anthropomorphism. I stand by my word: Proud and honorable Vaynakh and Avars and others vs. the subhuman horde. If you believe that "Russians" are human, you should move over to the warmed up commie puke blog at Russia's ORT TV Channel 1. Or CBS or WaPo or NYT, which is the same.
Get a life. Learn the language--Vaynakh, Circassian, Russian, any, but not the MSM newspeak--then come back.
Jihad is what the pravoslvny trash Russians are waging against the humans.
The "Russians" is what emerged after the monkey-god cross-bred with dogs and pigs


Misha says:

Poland and the Baltic states made the transition to multi-party democracy because it was a requirement for them to enter NATO and the EU, which assisted them in creating the institutions that would enable them to be welcomed into the western club.

The real reason why they were wanted in the club was precisely to enable the US/NATO to gain increased strategic and geo-political leverage against Russia. Now the Americans are busy militarizing these zones, which the Soviet Union not long ago demilitarized, in the interest of ending the Cold War and the arms race. The Americans have moved in and are building military bases, deploying new classes of weapons which were never before seen in Europe (anti-missile missile-missiles and so forth). You can hardly say that these countries were welcomed to the club with no strings attached.

I won’t mention the fact that secret CIA torture prisons were set up in these Eastern European “democracies” for the purpose of doing “renditions” of enemies of the American state, without the knowledge of the EU (though there is substantial evidence that the main Western European governments knew about the secret flights, the torture camps and all the rest of it and did nothing).

Those countries were not interested in preserving their sovereignty but they willingly surrendered it to the West in exchange for the perceived benefits that they would get. Therefore their newborn democratic institutions were not perceived as a “threat” by the American Overlords and thus were not targeted for subversion by the CIA and other intelligence agencies, as Russia's infant democratic institutions were (unsuccessfully).

But a majority of Russians prefer that Russia keep its sovereignty. Russia doesn't want to be a member of the EU or NATO or the New World Order where every country must pay obeisance to its American overlords. Russia is not an extension of “the west,” but a traditional world power in its own right (a strategic competitor to the west, as is China).

The main poles of power in the world are China, Russia, the United States and Europe. (Some would argue that the US and Europe together constitute one pole of power. While that indeed is true in the case of the US and the UK, the Anglo-American entity, it is not true in the case of continental Europe, which is gradually beginning to assert itself as a separate pole again.)

Traditionally countries such as Poland have feared their powerful neighbors (Germany and Russia). Therefore Poland has sought an alliance with the Anglo-Americans as a form of protection from its powerful neighbors. (Note: Poland fears Germany and Russia, not just Russia.) England declared war on Germany after it invaded Poland in WWII. Poland pursued the alliance with Britain to protect it from powerful Germany. After the war the USSR got Poland (since they pushed the German invaders out block-by-block at enormous cost to themselves in human life). The USSR eventually terminated its post-war occupation of Eastern Europe, and withdrew its military forces and demilitarized the region, which is something the Anglo-Americans still haven’t done (in Germany for example). Russia was not forced out of Eastern Europe but chose to leave, as good will gesture, in the interests of ending the arms race and the Cold War. Now the Americans are doing everything they can to re-militarize the places that Russia just got finished de-militarizing.


Misha says:

Russia's coat-of-arms is the Double-Headed Eagle. One head looks west and the other head looks east. This illustrates that Russia is not only a European country but it is also an Asian country as well. Everything to the west of the Ural Mountains is European Russia, but everything east of the Urals is Asian Russia. In fact Russia is both the largest country in Europe and the largest country in Asia, at the same time!

See a photo of the Russian Two-Headed Eagle Coat of Arms:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Coat_of_Arms_of_the_Russian_Federation.svg/482px-Coat_of_Arms_of_the_Russian_Federation.svg.png


Russia's future really lies more to the east with Asia than it does with the west, especially with China. China's rapidly growing economy has an almost insatiable demand for raw materials and energy, and no one has more of either than Russia does.

It is only a matter of time before China emerges as the largest economic power in the world and China's military and political dominance will follow China's economic dominance as surely as night follows day.

The simple fact is that China has 1300 million people and the US only has 300 million. China's population is 4.3 times larger than the US population. This means that if China can achieve a per capita GDP which is only 23% of US per capita GDP, then the Chinese economy surpasses the American economy:

23% x 1300/300 = 100%

Japan achieved a per capita GDP equal to the 23% of US per capita GDP in 1948 (three years after the end of WWII) and today Japan's per capita GDP is about 75% of the US level. Japan has even less natural resources (per capita) than China has.

One major challenge for China is gaining secure access to sufficient natural resources to continue powering its meteoric economic rise. This is a major challenge for China in a world where the major sea lanes and access to raw materials are controlled by the west. It is precisely in this regard that Russia is assisting China. Russia and China are forming a strategic partnership. Russia has the world's largest storehouse of untapped energy and mineral resources in the world, especially in the Siberian part of Russia, close to China. Already China is the largest foreign investor in Siberia and the Chinese presence is growing rapidly. Russia can guaranty China access to the raw materials and energy it needs, right here in Asia, without depending on western-controlled sources of supply.

It is no longer a question of if but when China will displace the United States as the largest economy in the world. Military power follows economic power as surely as night follows day. Clearly Russia's future lies more with the rising star to east east than it does with yesteryear's powers in the west.


Misha says:

The idea was that NAFA would help insure US economic domination of the world, because it would insure US access to the natural resources in Canada and the large labor pool in Mexico (which helps keep a lid on US wages and maintains corporate profit levels). But the simple fact is that the combined North American natural resource base is only a small fraction of what Russia alone contains. Also the combined population of Russia and China is much larger than the combined North American population. The strategic alliance between Russia and China will create the strongest economic and military power in the world! It will be unbeatable!


La Russophobe says:

MISHA:

Please dear, try to exercise a bit of discipline in the volume of material you attempt to publish on this blog. One might think you imagine it's yours rather than mine and if necessary I will disabuse you of that notion. Nobody wants to read you at length, that is why you don't have your own blog. See?


what? says:

"Get a life. Learn the language--Vaynakh, Circassian, Russian, any, but not the MSM newspeak--then come back.
Jihad is what the pravoslvny trash Russians are waging against the humans."


I know Russian pretty decently, learning some of the primitive mountain languages of the half-civilized residents of the North Caucuses, however, is not high on my list of things to do. What do you have against Orthodox Christians (the Russian word for which you spelled improperly)? I'm not a big fan of the Orthodox Church, but in the civilization department it'd take a pretty big moron (or a Muslim...wait, are you a Muslim? You're getting awfully defensive about the Chechen plans for Jihad in the region) to think that it was less 'civilized' than any existing branch of Islam, much less the Saudi-funded extremist Islam which pollutes Chechnya.

"The "Russians" is what emerged after the monkey-god cross-bred with dogs and pigs"
This, I take it, is an attempt at humor?
If it is, it's pretty damn disgusting humor (and also basically illiterate as well. Like your immigrant in chief Kim you don't grasp basic English grammar. Since the noun "Russians" is plural in this usage, the verb to be also has to be plural. You meant to write The Russians ARE what emerged after the... etc. etc.)

Vova, if you're the kind of person attracted to America these days, we're in a hell of a lot bigger trouble than I thought. Why don't you put your Russophobia to some sort of productive use...like learning English or, given your spelling of pravoslavnye, Russian.


Misha says:

Aren't you the same one who has like ten other racist Russia-hater blogs on the Web?


Brian says:

In the November presidential elections, I will weigh my vote carefully, partially based on how the two candidates stand on Putin's Russia. I am 25 years old, and I barely remember the fall of the Iron Curtain. I never thought the vestiges of the former Soviet Union would be reincarnated into the present Russian state.

Misha, before you claim the CIA detention centers in eastern Europe are "torture camps," it would help if you think for yourself, rather than let others think for you. "Torture" is one of those things everyone claims is happening, but never offer any proof to it, other than horrible actions in one small Iraqi prison. America-bashing is something that requires little or no fact, just rumors.

Lastly, the Russian people are not horrible. They made a terrible mistake, but when they have a state monopoly on the media, can they really be blamed for being brainwashed by the Kremlin's servants? And there are many Russians who have fled, and now residing where they are truly free. I have a Russian friend at work who is one such person.


Misha says:

President George W. Bush phoned Dmitry Medvedev on Tuesday to congratulate him on his victory in the Russian presidential election...

Source: http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080304/100642522.html


elmer says:

Ah, it is amazing - a never-ending reactor of sovok rooskie BS.

Poland and the Baltic states, it appears, were "forced" to accept democracy and multi-party systems because NATO and the EU "forced" them to.

And peaceful, peaceful (мир всем, привет всем is the catch phrase hammered into sovok rooskies) "demilitarized" everything.

I guess that roosha's gas wars via the Friendship (Дружба) Pipeline is actually not an attempt to subjugate Ukraine and other countries - it's just an attempt to be friendly and peaceful.

Vova, the rooskies have made and are still making terrible decisions - I agree.

I'm not ready to call them subhuman - yet.

I think of all those poor people that are suffering just so Putin and a favored few can count their money and enjoy leather coats and power.

No, wait a minute - Putin doesn't wear shirts, so that he can look like an oily orthodox rooskie.

The poor people who are suffering because of him don't wear shirts because they can't afford them.


elmer says:

Here's a little somethin'-somethin' for the rooskies.

Vova will know exactly what I mean.

The rooskies have a superiority complex - a really, really bad superiority complex. That's why they think that people are crying to stay with roosha.

And "nationalism" to them means only one nationality - rooskie. Any other "nationalism" is, to them, a form of fascism.

Knowing how much the rooskie sovoks loved Stepan Bandera, whom they could not catch for many, many years, and who fought against them for many, many years, I thought I would provide this friendly link - from Bandera, Texas, where presidential primaries are currently taking place:

http://www.banderacowboycapital.com/Home/pagen.html


Misha says:

The Friendship pipeline pumps oil, not natural gas. It was built by the Soviet Union to supply Ukraine and the western allies of the USSR (Eastern Europe) with copious amounts of oil extracted in by the Soviet government in the Russian SFSR.

Tens of Billions of barrels of Russian oil were pumped through the "Friendship" pipeline by the USSR and sold to Soviet clients and allies for between 5-10 percent of the then-going world market price.

The cumulative subsidy given by Russia to its socialist "friends" via subsidized energy has been calculated at between $12,000,000,000,000.00 and $14,000,000,000,000.00 ($12 and $14 trillion dollars), including the Soviet period.

But the Soviet Union is long gone now, and those days are gone now too. Russia is willing to remain on friendly terms with whoever is willing to be friends with Russia (Russians are very friendly people). But energy is a capitalist commodity and Russia can no longer afford to be so sentimental about such things at her own expense. Countries must either pay the going rate for Russian energy or face the shutoff of the tap. There is no other way. Period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druzhba_pipeline


elmer says:

The thing is, roosha cut off oil to Ukraine as well as gas.


And rooshans, as usual, do a lot of calculating. It's called pulling figures out of thin air.

rooshans are liars, and they are liars that figure.

roosha has never been sentimental about anything - there's always a catch somewhere, somehow.

And the current games by Gazprom have nothing to do with the going rate.

They have everything to do with middlemen and corruption, which has been going on for quite some time.

http://www.eurotrib.com/story/2008/3/4/83643/48655


Sarkozy says:

Misha’s peculiar lexis remains deeply infused with vile, revolting lies, and must indisputably be a crime against humanity. Furthermore, it is a rather unpleasant divergence from the bigoted, ultra-Nazi philosophies of xenophobia we’ve come to expect from two of the blog’s most “famous” participants. I for one, refuse to accept his strangely alien realities, heavily influenced by the thuggish brutes of the Russian government, and almost certainly ordered to be written by Putin himself.

With all my heart, I call for the aptly glorious return of awkwardly spun, embarrassing comments from little malignant trolls (notably suffering from the dreaded height inferiority syndrome), whose basally depraved spewing provides a comfortable bedrock against which the rest of the world’s depravities can be properly measured.

How can xenophobia be fostered on such a translucently blatant level? Let us bury the stereotypes, perhaps in the same dump where parasitic vermin and flesh eating maggots are feasting on the remnants of Vova’s deteriorating mind. The point of article was to show the duality of Russian law enforcement, and the flaw of a one party system, while using the usual slander to engorge the issue to be mildly offensive to an average reader. However, the initial reaction to it was soiled in a gargantuan hate orgy, sugared with proposals of slavery, genocide, and general destruction. It is understandable that inhabitants of developing countries would react in a different manner than us, but the desire to orgasm over the same outdated vocabulary which I am forced to parody, over and over again, escapes me in its purpose. If one refuses to acknowledge humanity, I unreservedly recommend a lengthy visit to a local mental institution, until this acute condition is under control.


Misha says:

Russia did not cut off oil shipments to the Ukraine, neither via the "Friendship" pipeline nor via any other route. Oil is an easily transportable liquid that can be pumped through a pipe, transported via rail car or sent via the sea in an oil tanker. So there truly is a global oil market and a global price for oil, based on global supply and demand for oil.

Ukraine's female Prime Minister, Yulia Tymoshenko, tried to play the same game with oil that she is now playing with gas, the last time she held power. But Russia promptly cut Ukraine off from its oil supply and that was that. Ukraine has been paying the world market price for oil ever since, so there is no longer any reason for Russia to cut Ukraine off from its oil (as long as they are willing to pay the going rate), and the same thing applies with gas.

But natural gas is different. It is much harder to transport gas via rail cars, or even by sea, because it must first be liquefied and compressed, which is a costly operation, and that cost cuts into the profit. That means that most gas travels as gas (not as a compressed liquid), via pipeline. This ties the gas markets to those places where pipeline infrastructure already exist (both in terms of the supply of gas as well as the demand). Gas can travel from the "seller" to the "buyer" just so long as a gas pipeline connects the two dots on the map. But there is no "market" where there is no infrastructure to connect buyer with seller.

Under Ukraine's current president, Victor Yushchenko (of "Orange Revolution" fame) all of the issues between Russia and Ukraine pertaining to gas had already been settled, on terms that were mutually agreeable to both Ukraine and Russia. Russia got to transport its gas to Europe, across Ukrainian territory, on agreeable transport fees, and Ukraine got access to low cost gas from Central Asia, via Russia, in return.

But the recent election of that bitch Yulia Tymoshenko, who is backed by the US intelligence agencies as a spoiler of both Russia-Ukraine relations as well as Russia-Europe relations, has reignited these old disputes.

Thus the European energy market is being thrown into turmoil by the Americans yet again. The Americans want to spoil Europe's energy markets and create antipathy between the major European countries (including Russia), who after all must find some way to co-exist and share the same continent together. The Americans would rather see turmoil in European energy markets than see some peaceful, normal and mutually beneficial relations develop between Europe and Russia.

Russia is currently building a vast infrastructure to connect Russian gas to Western Europe directly (bypassing the unstable transit countries such as Ukraine and Poland). Russia is currently building Nord-Stream (North Stream) and South Stream gas pipelines, which will carry massive amounts of Russian gas to Europe via the Baltic Sea and the Black Sea. But until these projects are complete (2010 - 2012), Russia is still dependent on Ukrainian infrastructure, which dates back to Soviet times (when everyone was all part of the same happy family).

Ukraine's president, Victor Yushchenko, is intelligent enough to realize that Ukraine's long-term future as a gas transit country (along with the lucrative fees that brings for Ukraine) is dependent upon Ukraine's ability to portray itself (both to Europe and Russia) as a reliable partner that can be counted on.

But that bitch Tymoshenko, the recently elected prime minister, is just an American CIA-backed Cheney-backed spoiler.

Let’s not forget that Tymoshenko is a true Ukrainian Oligarch, and she made her billions when the company that her husband owned stole Russian gas and resold it to Europe (via Ukraine) in the cowboy Yeltsin 1990’s. This is why she is known as the “gas princess” in Ukraine today. The more things change the more they stay the same. Now that bitch is trying to push out the intermediary companies and bring her own corrupt people back into the operation once again.

From Russia’s standpoint this is a Ukrainian problem (a struggle for power between Ukraine’s president and prime minister). All of Russia’s dealings on the gas issue are above board and completely transparent. It is the Ukrainian partners which are trying to pull an opaque shade across everything, and obstruct Europe’s energy security, while their internal oligarch factions fight each other to the bone.

The Ukrainian “gas pricessa” http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Gas-Princess-named-Ukraines-acting-PM/2005/01/25/1106415555503.html?from=moreStories

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080304/100643918.html

http://room12a.com/archives/yushenko-timoshenko.jpg

http://www.bat.mk.ua/1/foto/Timoshenko_01.jpg

http://www.russiablog.org/TimoshenkoDeskImage.jpg

http://www.heritage.org/Research/RussiaandEurasia/images/74743756.gif



Misha says:

Why is this blog so challenged when it comes to posting my simple quote " marks?

Anyway...

Russia did not cut off oil shipments to the Ukraine, neither via the "Friendship" pipeline nor via any other route. Oil is an easily transportable liquid that can be pumped through a pipe, transported via rail car, or sent via the sea in an oil tanker. So there truly is a global oil market, based on global supply and demand.

Ukraine's female Prime Minister, Yulia Tymoshenko, tried to play the same game with oil that she is now playing with gas, the last time she held power. But Russia promptly cut Ukraine off from its oil supply and that was that. Ukraine has been paying the world market price for oil ever since, so there is no longer any reason for Russia to cut Ukraine off from its oil (as long as they are willing to pay the going rate), and the same thing applies with gas.

But natural gas is different. It is much harder to transport gas via rail cars, or even by sea, because it must first be liquefied and compressed, which is a costly operation, and that cost cuts into the profit. That means that most gas travels as gas (not as a compressed liquid), via pipeline. This ties the gas markets to those places where pipeline infrastructure already exist (both in terms of the supply of gas as well as the demand). Gas can travel from the "seller" to the "buyer" just so long as a gas pipeline connects the two dots on the map. But there is no "market" where there is no infrastructure to connect buyer with seller.

Under Ukraine's current president, Victor Yushchenko (of "Orange Revolution" fame) all of the issues between Russia and Ukraine pertaining to gas had already been settled, on terms that were mutually agreeable to both Ukraine and Russia. Russia got to transport its gas to Europe, across Ukrainian territory, on agreeable transport fees, and Ukraine got access to low cost gas from Central Asia, via Russia, in return.

But the recent election of that bitch Yulia Tymoshenko, who is backed by the US intelligence agencies as a spoiler of both Russia-Ukraine relations as well as Russia-Europe relations, has reignited these old disputes.

Thus the European energy market is being thrown into turmoil by the Americans yet again. The Americans want to spoil Europe's energy markets and create antipathy between the major European countries (including Russia), who after all must find some way to co-exist and share the same continent together. The Americans would rather see turmoil in European energy markets than see some peaceful, normal and mutually beneficial relations develop between Europe and Russia.

Russia is currently building a vast infrastructure to connect Russian gas to Western Europe directly (bypassing the unstable transit countries such as Ukraine and Poland). Russia is currently building Nord-Stream (North Stream) and South Stream gas pipelines, which will carry massive amounts of Russian gas to Europe via the Baltic Sea and the Black Sea. But until these projects are complete (2010 - 2012), Russia is still dependent on Ukrainian infrastructure, which dates back to Soviet times (when everyone was all part of the same happy family).

Ukraine's president, Victor Yushchenko, is intelligent enough to realize that Ukraine's long-term future as a gas transit country (along with the lucrative fees that brings for Ukraine) is dependent upon Ukraine's ability to portray itself (both to Europe and Russia) as a reliable partner that can be counted on.

But that bitch Tymoshenko, the recently elected prime minister, is just an American CIA-backed Cheney-backed spoiler.

Let’s not forget that Tymoshenko is a true Ukrainian Oligarch, and she made her billions when the company that her husband owned stole Russian gas and resold it to Europe (via Ukraine) in the cowboy Yeltsin 1990’s. This is why she is known as the “gas princess” in Ukraine today. The more things change the more they stay the same. Now that bitch is trying to push out the intermediary companies and bring her own corrupt people back into the operation once again.

From Russia’s standpoint this is a Ukrainian problem (a struggle for power between Ukraine’s president and prime minister). All of Russia’s dealings on the gas issue are above board and completely transparent. It is the Ukrainian partners which are trying to pull an opaque shade across everything, and obstruct Europe’s energy security, while their internal oligarch factions fight each other to the bone.

The Ukrainian “gas pricessa” http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Gas-Princess-named-Ukraines-acting-PM/2005/01/25/1106415555503.html?from=moreStories

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080304/100643918.html

http://room12a.com/archives/yushenko-timoshenko.jpg

http://www.bat.mk.ua/1/foto/Timoshenko_01.jpg

http://www.russiablog.org/TimoshenkoDeskImage.jpg

http://www.heritage.org/Research/RussiaandEurasia/images/74743756.gif


Misha says:

Russia has purchased and installed special precision-machined Swiss valves and meters on the border pipelines which precisely measure how much Russian gas is being sent into Ukraine (to the centimeter). Russia has also hired Swiss experts to certify and sign the paperwork which proves how much gas Russia is sending across the border into Ukraine. These Swiss experts can testify on Russia’s behalf in any international judicial proceedings.

So if Russia is sending enough gas across the border into Ukraine but that gas is not coming out on the other side of the pipeline, in Western Europe, that can only mean that the Ukrainians are tapping the gas and siphoning it off for themselves (and this certainly will not be the first time it has happened).

Indeed Ukraine’s president Prime Minister, Yulia Timoshenko, who is called the “Gas Princess” in Ukraine, made her billions precisely by tapping and stealing Russian gas (and then reselling it to Western Europe at inflated prices). But she did all this back in the “cowboy” days of the Yeltsin 90’s, before Russia got wise to her, and before Russia even saw a need to install gas meters on the border, back when Russia simply pumped the gas (“however much it took to keep pipeline pressure up”) and Ukraine simply stole it.

Those days are gone for good now, as I keep on saying.


Vova says:

Sarko, with all due respect, but your statement "The point of article was to show the duality of Russian law enforcement, and the flaw of a one party system" needs a few clarifications:
There is neither law nor enforcement, just brute force;
There is no one-party system--there being no parties. There is a corporation and stage props. By any definition, the organization is not a political party because there are no politics in the corporation.
Finally, drop this anthopomorphism. No matter how civilized YOU are, the people who run the corporation have no human attributes--they are maggots and vermin, and the subjects are not a society but a herd of slaves. Perhaps you haven't spent enough time there, including time in the GULAG, as yours truly


hey vova says:

nice of you not to respond to the allegations you support jihad and are basically illiterate.

typical


Vova says:

Yes, I support jihad and I am basically illiterate. Why should I deny this. But unlike Nashi Misha I do not pass Surkov's puke as original thought


fair enough says:

i'll take surkov's puke over your muslim-coddling and terrorism justification any day of the week


elmer says:

Wow, Misha and the Kremlin are working overtime just to spew Kremlin propaganda on a blog. How "Friendly"!

This seems almost like some sort of Kremlin propaganda attack - Kremlin Misha is foaming at the mouth and he's spinning like a whirling dervish trying to get all of the prepared propaganda posted.

Vova - look, I think you're right about roosha, and, after all, there were previous postings about roosha's genetic culture of fear that exists now in large measure due to the sovoks.

But I think Sarko is right in one respect - as John McCain said, "we're all God's children."

I don't think Sarko disagrees with you totally, I think he's just pointing out that dehumanizing "the enemy" is, historically, the first step in making it easy to kill people.

Most people love freedom and fresh air.

The people in roosha haven't figured it out yet.

So thugs like Putin and friends take advantage of that.

And the rooshans, who don't know what else to do, ratify it, as stated in the main article.


Vova says:

Elmer, we are all God's children. Of course I am exaggerating to drive home the point. Yes, dehumanizing is the first step towards making it easy to kill people, that's what Hitler did, and he was supported by a vast majority of Austrians. The people in Russia have never experienced life in a civil society with separation of powers, independent judiciary, separation of church and state, free media, free elections, transparency, the list goes on.
Rashka, however, is a patch quilt, not really a country, and they are obsessed with messianic fervor and feeling of their superiority. Any time you point out that in a country endowed with more land and resources than any other people live like shit they reply that the Jews stole all the money while Chechens terrorize them, they are surrounded by enemies, the whole laundry list. They are so intolerant as to make Hitler-era Germans look enlightened.
Rashka is a terrorist state ruled by inhuman parasites and the people there have exactly the government they deserve.
Poor Nashi Misha. I wonder why Kim hasn't blocked him, unless, of course, she is of the same mind, which she isn't.
Rooskies kill people every day simply because they look different. So dehumanizing them ain't really off the mark


elmer says:

Vova, you hit the nail on the head - people get the government they deserve.

Or, as stated in the article, the one they have ratified.

What is absolutely baffling is this: how can a country where people recognized that "we pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us" go on like this?

How can a country that had all the sovok jokes, which recognized how bad the government was, and how bad the system was, go on like this?

Example:

Guy stands in one of the endless lines, this one for toilet paper. Just as he gets to the window, they say "sorry, comrade, no more toilet paper."

The guy throws a tantrum. The cops walk up and calm him down. They then say "you know, tavarish, in the old days, we would have shot you."

When he gets home, his wife asks him how it went.

He says: "it's worse than I thought - they've run out of bullets."






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