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Obamagate, Part III: Barack Obama, Boldfaced Liar

Filed under: US Elections

Barack Obama is now furiously scrambling to cut his ties with his racist pastor and deny prior knowledge of his racism and hatred of the country Obama wants to lead. But Newsmax reported on August 9, 2007, that its reporter Jim Davis attended services with Barack Obama and his secret service security contingent on July 22, 2007, at Trinity United Church of Christ on the South Side of Chicago. Davis was first blocked from entering the church by its phalanx of brawny bouncers, apparently because of his skin color; inside, there were virtually no whites in attendance.

At that service, Obama heard Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. say that "white arrogance" was responsible for U.S. foreign policy, and referred to our country as the "United States of White America." Giving an example, Wright said that American involvement in Iraq was due to "Bush administration bullshit." What kind of pastor uses that kind of language in the pulpit? What kind of American sits and listens rather than walking out? Clearly, Wright knew that Obama was in attendance, since the members of his security contingent and the reporter were just about the only white faces in the congregation of over 2,500. Clearly, Obama did not do a thing to oppose what he had heard, much less walk out as he should have done, and only addresses the issue now because he's been forced to do so by the media. The Democrats are directly responsible for this outrage, because they gave Obama a free pass for so long during their primaries.

So let's be crystal clear: When Obama says he never heard this kind of rhetoric from Wright, he's simply lying, and when he claims he's a candidate who stands for "change" he couldn't be more disingenuous. If he really did attend Wright's church for 20 years without ever becoming aware of Wright's racism, that would be worse than knowing about it, since it would clearly mean he's far too stupid and oblivious to be president. Who knows how many other such services he attended when reporters didn't happen to be around. If Obama can lie so brazenly, and so freely spurn the pastor he's spent his whole adult life adoring, then how can we believe he'll stick to any promise he may make now about governing the whole country and rejecting Wright's venomous ideology when president?

Davis also notes that Wright has told the New York Times that in a general election he expected Obama to distance himself from the church for reasons of political expediency: "If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me. I said it to Barack personally, and he said 'yeah, that might have to happen.'" Conspiracy? I'm not a big believer in them, but is sure sounds like one to me.

UPDATE: A reader points out that the Daily Kos is disputing this account based solely on the date. Could be Davis got that wrong. We're seeing a new low in Clintoniansm here: Obama doesn't say "I never heard Wright say that," he just says "I wasn't there on that date." If this is change, give me the same old, same old. William Kristol writes about the incident in today's New York Times. Kristol notes Obama's response to the 9/11 and "God damn America" remarks: "The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity." How Clintonian can you get?

UPDATE #2: The LA Times reports that Newsmax stands by its story. Newsmax states that their reporter attended several services in December and is 100% sure he witnessed Obama attending the "United States of White America" sermon. The date might be wrong, of course, or a commenter suggests that Obama could have heard the sermon and then traveled to Miami the same day, especially if he left after one hour: "Trinity services start at 7:30am. If Obama stayed an hour (normal service) and left at 8:30 am. 1/2 hour to Midway Airport and in the air by 9:15 Arrive in Miami by 12 noon (allowing 2 hour and 45 minutes flight and landing, would be 1 pm Eastern time & half hour to drive to the event. I think it is a very real possibility he attended the service and spoke in Miami." Sooner or later, Obama will get nailed with conclusive documentary proof and won't be able to deny he was present. Then he'll pull another Clinton and start talking about what he remembers hearing and how he may not have been paying attention because he was thinking about saving sick children. One can only heave a sigh of disgust.

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Comments


The Farker says:

This is a completely different speech from the ones that you guys quote from 2001 and 2003. Try harder.



La Russophobe says:

FARKER:

Wow, that is lame. It's not only two speeches that are at issue, but racism and inappropriate language at any time.

Obama has said he never heard Wright use racist or inappropriate language in ANY speech at ANY time. He said he's only just been recently made aware of it, and has immediately distanced himself from Wright because of it. That's a boldfaced lie. He did hear Wright use racist and inappropriate speech long ago, and did nothing.

Poor attempt at misdirection. Try harder. But squirm as you may, it's too late now. The jig is up. It's simply ridiculous to suggest that Obama could attend this church for 20 years and be unware of Wright's racism.

If you paid attention, you'd know that if Obama lied about hearing racism and inappropriate speech, he may well also have lied about hearing (or knowing about) the 9/11 and "God damn America" remarks. Simply put, we can't trust him. If you think it makes no difference to American voters that Obama listened to "United States of White America" and "bullshit" from the pulpit and did nothing, you must be one of Obama's cult members.


La Russophobe says:

JOSH:

Wow, try to be at least a little fair, can't you?

Your link doesn't say the story is false, at most it implies Davis may have got the date wrong. If you are suggesting that you believe Obama could have attended Wright's church for 20 years and been unaware of his racism, then you are admitting he's far stupider than Bush and unqualified for office. Otherwise, the fact that he heard Wright being racist on July 21 instead of 22nd is not that meaningful, is it?


John Foreman says:

"Arrogance" is what you cite..

Chomp on this and tell me how it tastes..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bOOL3BYaIEQ


Pug says:

Josh is right. Apparently Obama was in Miami on July 22nd.

If Newsmax is going to attack the guy, they could at least get the facts straight. That isn't too much to ask.

When they put out something so easily disproved, responding with, "Well, maybe we got the date wrong but it's still true" is pretty lame.


La Russophobe says:

PUG:

I'm not sure I understand your point. Is it that any news report that contains any error (no error has been proved yet, hence your use of the word "apparently") then the entire report is worthless? It must be perfect in every aspect or it is to be disregarded?

If so, that's sheer nonsense. No criticism of George Bush is perfect. If perfection were required, the Daily Kos would have to close its doors.

Your remark sounds dangerously like propaganda to me. It's simply absurd to suggest that Obama could attend this guy's church for 20 years and be unaware of his racism. But if he was, that's even worse, as noted in the post.


John Foreman says:

But, no considers that these remarks are anomalies. MSM makes it seem like these rare instances are this pastor's 30 year theme. That is not true. Oprah went to that church for 30 years.

What is interesting in that very speech, Wright preaches love thy neighbor aggressively right after, but the media cuts the message right @ that point.


La Russophobe says:

JOHN:

Oprah quit the church some time ago specifically because of the outrageous statements, but is still taking heat for going there, and Obama remained a member despite that. The WHOLE POINT is that the MSM has given this church a free ride for much too long, not calling them to account as it would have done a white church linked to people of power.

If the KKK (or George Bush) said "persecute all the blacks, then love everyone who is left" I'd have no problem with the MSM reporting only the first part of that sentence and wouldn't seek to rationalize the racism by referring to the second part.


vova says:

Kim,
Obama is not a liar. He just speaks a different language which only sounds like the same language you and I speak. He--and his enthocentric world of racial exclusivity--have a different value system and a different semantic system. When he says that he was somewhere or wasn't somewhere, he really believes what he says, so in his sick mind he is not lying.
Next time use a jive-to-English translator.


john Foreman says:

"Oprah quit the church some time ago specifically because of the outrageous statements,"

Oprah quit the church one year ago, but has been there since 1984. This goes to my point that these weren't frequent themes by the pastor (Oprah stayed for 23 years); so, therefore, it is quite possible Obama was there for 20 years and not heard these comments...

Capish?


vova says:

The MSM would never call the "church" to account because of their racism. I am quoting here: All these radical theorists, so popular in America’s academy, do in fact approve of figures like Wright, which is why respectable universities have tenured Wright’s spiritual mentors. (Thanks to Lisa for pointing me to Spengler’s important analysis of Wright’s theological sources.) The condescending approval of sophisticated academic radicals toward Wright’s theological mentors seems very much like Obama’s own approval of Wright. The tone of the two worlds might be different, but the substance is not that far apart.
In MSM view, there are two value systems--an American system and a liberal system. Obama is not one of us, he's not really American and thus cannot be judged and measured by the same yardstick.
What do you expect of a kid whose mother was virulently anti-American leftist, whose father and stepfather muslims, who grew up in the third world? A type of hybrid worldview: half marxist, half afrocentrist.


John Foreman says:

"What do you expect of a kid whose mother was virulently anti-American leftist, whose father and stepfather muslims, who grew up in the third world? A type of hybrid worldview: half marxist, half afrocentrist.:"

Thank God for the soldiers that fought and/or died defending our collective right to have different views AND NOT BE CALLED UN AMERICAN..

capish?


vova says:

John,
We defend these freaks' right to have a different view, but unfortunately they do not believe that you are entitled to yours.
You may allow a bulldog to have a view but it won't be reciprocal.
The Demonazi party's condescending attitude towards them is what engenderd this crap: in the Democrat Nazi view the blacks are less intelligent and thus don't have to get the same grades as whites and are inferior and should get jobs without competing.
It's their problem. Their chickens came home to roost.
Quit this anthropomorphism. They are not like us.


john Foreman says:

" but unfortunately they do not believe that you are entitled to yours."

Can you please inform me of where they said I can't have a view.

Can you please admit your logic bites..


john Foreman says:

Can I edit the logic bites part? please ignore..


vova says:

John,
They, the Nagins (of chocolate New Orleans vagina-firendly fame), live in parallel reality.
In the world of Michelle Obama--the quota queen--the lower forms of life do not have to get the same grades to be admitted or to have the same skills to get a job. And their words do not have the same meaning that they do for us, ordinary human Americans.
They are not like us. Luckily.
Their chickes came home to roost.
I am enjoying the Nagin vs. Vagina mayhem


Josh says:

john Foreman says:
"Oprah quit the church some time ago specifically because of the outrageous statements,"

Oprah quit the church one year ago, but has been there since 1984. This goes to my point that these weren't frequent themes by the pastor (Oprah stayed for 23 years); so, therefore, it is quite possible Obama was there for 20 years and not heard these comments...

Capish?

Posted March 17, 2008 12:06 PM


She quit a year ago, when she decided to support Obama for President.

She doesn't like getting labeled as a racist, because her business would lose money.






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