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The Saudi plan is just another deceiving tool

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Israel has always been open and willing to conclude peace agreements with Arab and Muslim countries, as long as its existence and security is not put in danger. In the Arab world, many believe that the road to Washington runs via Jerusalem. Even if this is not the case (anymore), this belief served everyone's interest; Jordan and Egypt gained better relations to the US as well as considerable financial aid, and Israel attained (cold) peace with two Arab nations and more recently (1996) a trade partnership with Qatar. Since the coalition is pretty much trapped in Iraq's quagmire, the situation in the region changed dramatically. Iran and the Shiias are on the wave and they have found themselves powerful satellites, namely Hezbollah, Syria and Hamas. For the time being it does not matter that Hamas is Sunni and Iran Shiia, as long as they are fighting a common enemy.

There was Madrid, Oslo and Camp David, Beirut summit, the famous Road Map and now the Saudi plan, which is actually the resuscitated plan of King Abdullah, presented earlier at the Beirut summit.

The Media Line reported that, "Members of the Arab League, meeting in Riyadh, have unanimously approved the 2002 Saudi peace initiative. One abstention came from Ismail Haniyye, the Hamas leader who serves as prime minister in the Palestinian government. Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas voted in favor. In his remarks to the assemblage, Saudi Foreign Minister Saud Al-Faisal threatened that, 'If Israel refuses (to accept the plan) that means it doesn't want peace. Then (the conflict) goes back into the hands of the lords of war.' But European Union foreign affairs envoy Javier Solana urged the league not to see the plan as a take it or leave it proposition, but rather to "get the negotiations started. In any negotiations there are changes in positions, because negotiations are like that." After the plan was initially unveiled in 2002, the issue of a Palestinian "right of return" was added. Recently, Israeli leaders have called on the Arab world to drop that provision, seen as a deal-breaker by the Israelis, so that progress can be made in negotiations based upon the plan. The Arab leaders (as expected) rejected the idea."

Some of the obstacles are as follows:

-decades old hatred (both sides) and the urge to gain through revenge the lost dignity of the Islamic Ummah (that is one sided), status of Jerusalem and that of refugees - which are two of the points Hamas always said that are not negotiable, normalization of relations with Syria (by returning the Golan heights, the Arab brevetted invention called 'peace for land' -- going back to 1967 borders while there is in place the Hudna, a period of calm till Arab Muslims and Iran grow strong enough to eradicate Israel.

I did not even mention the Israeli security concerns because they become completely irrelevant when its partners won't settle for anything less than its destruction.

At the Riyadh summit, the Saudis made efforts to stabilize the relationship between Hamas and Fatah, not for the sake of the Palestinians, as some idealists would hope, but rather to minimize the Iranian role in the Palestinian affairs and the region. Saudi Arabia is a family owned business whose sole priority is retention of power for a family only three generations away from herding camels in the desert. They cannot allow Shiias (it is common knowledge by now that the Wahhabi abuses the Shiia minority) to take over their land and consequently over the wealth.

It is always good to remember that Hamas is actually acting as the Muslim Brotherhood branch in the territories. The fact that it carries a different name does not alter its ideology and core principles. Far from being a democratic leader, although that is what he claims to be, President Mubarak at least recognized the Muslim Brotherhood cancerous ideology that spread from Egypt to Gaza long before 1948 and much more virulently afterwards. Briefly put the MB is as perilous as the Nazi ideology was because they want to establish the perfect, global Islamic Caliphate. Obviously they not only promote violence and terror against the others (non Muslims) but their clerics release fatwas saying that the Jihhadists (translating, criminals) are emissaries of God, which is actually conform with the teachings on Quran, Hadith and Sunnah. From this perspective the writings of Sayyed Qutb, Michel Aflaq and al Banna are intellectually challenging and revealing from an ideological point of view. As Shahada says, which is the initial declaring of faith, "There is no sovereign legislator other than Allah and Muhammad (Peace be upon Him) is His slave and final Messenger." The Caliphate being established after God's rule rises above all principles, theories etc we can come up as simple human beings. MB (as Hizb ut Tahrir) summarizes the Islamic foreign policy as following: 1) dawah (primary invitation to the true belief and the only God) followed by intellectual debate/discussions with the elites of the Jews and Christians, namely the People of the Book. The others are considered apostates from the get go and they do not deserve to be engaged at an intellectual level since they cannot appreciate the greatness of God in the first place. 2) There will be a period of toleration when the non Muslims - male only - will be required to pay the jizya, the protection tax and 3) preparation for an offensive Jihad. As in the past, the Catholic church/Crusaders helped people understand, by any necessary means, how unsafe and foolish of them is to reject the gospel preached I can say today that what goes around comes around, even if centuries later.

At the surface the conflict may involve the desire of acquiring more wealth, of becoming regional and global players, etc but the essence of this struggle is the search and recognition of our moral identities as human beings. I would have thought that in a Godless world (or close to be so), religion is the last thing we can be greatly influenced by, but in the light of the past years this assessment proves to be, if not a fallacy, then at least a loophole vision of the current events.

I do not doubt for a minute that the Palestinians have freely chosen Hamas, knowing well that Hamas represents the forces of Islamic terrorism. They also overwhelmingly backed Fatah and Arafat when he aligned himself with the Soviets back in the cold war. This is exactly why the Palestinian people have lived in misery and will continue to do so. Given a choice, they always chose the forces of hatred and fanaticism. Therefore, it is pointless to proceed with any peace plans, much less the idiotic plans set up by the Saudis of all extremists! The phony negotiations with the unrepresentative and endlessly dishonest Abbas are delaying what is the only practical path to eventual peace -- the complete destruction of Hamas just as Nazism had to be completely annihilated to allow peace to come to Europe. The leftists are still deluding themselves that peace and stability can be achieved with terrorist entities.

But how do you deal with an extremist, terrorist movement when those who are part of it have a creed so strong, so irrational and yet so very convincing to themselves that they see death in the struggle against oppression as a victory not a defeat. In fact they yearn not for victory of this world but the next. Prophet Muhammad says that the best action in Islam is fighting oppression, better than any prayer, fasting, charity or kindness is to deliver mankind from the oppression of man made and man imposed rules to the rule of the Just, and who is more Just that the one who Created Man? How exactly can one fight this ideology with reason and diplomacy? No more need to be said.

Writing about the "eagerness" of the Arab Muslims to live peacefully side by side with Israel, Charles Krauthammer said, "The world will soon be awash with 40th anniversary retrospectives on the war -- and on the peace of the ages that awaits if Israel would only return to June 4, 1967. But Israelis are cautious. They remember the terror of that unbearable May when, with Israel possessing no occupied territories whatsoever, the entire Arab world was furiously preparing Israel's imminent extinction. And the world did nothing." Hamas simply does not negotiate, it dictates. Do we let the terrorists take over while we stick our heads in sand?! I hope not.

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Comments


Mark Krauss says:

good post, actually researched and thought out.

in considering the "land for peace" mantra that's been going on for decades, why haven't the Jews who owned businesses and properties in Damascus, Jordan, Baghdad. etc. been recompensed for their losses after the Arabs either slaughtered them or drove them out when Israel declared itself?


Manuela says:

Thank you Mark for your time and appreciation.

Very well said. But, you see the Europeans did not have the guts of pointing it out to their beloved Arab business partners, and in this particular situation the US was in the same boat. Why upset the dictators with Jews problems? I guess it was partly because the Americans did not want to affect their friendly business ties and partly because they did not want to add more hatred towards the Jews. To the cities you pointed out, I'd add Beirut, too. Lebanon's behavior towards the Jews amazes me; here we have the most balanced and modern Middle Eastern country, and yet the resentments (of some of the Lebanese Christian, because most and I don't think I exaggerate, of the Lebanese Muslims would rather see Israel extinct than having civilized relations with it) towards the Jews are there. Much can be said about this subject but in the end it all comes to a choice: defend the Jews and ourselves or capitulate in front of the extremists.


Mark Krauss says:

Marionites and Copt's haven't seem to have been very successful in the face of Islamic tyranny either, there is either a lot fewer of them than there was, or they are hiding better these days.

Point taken on Beirut, Jews were all over Egypt the last century too, (when the Coptic church was quite large there) not anymore.


alec says:

Noroc (after reading your bio Manuela, I thought I'd try out the only other Romanian I remember from my stay in Bucharest, else than apa plata and salut).

On to your comments: I'm slightly confused about the way you view Middle Eastern tension towards Jews. Do you think that Jews were hated before the creation of Israel and current and past problems with Palestine?

In my experience, it's not just Muslims who generally dislike Israel (and for the fanatics, by extension Jews) but Middle East Christians as well. Palestine was actually comprised of 25% Christians, most of whom I say have the same feeling of animosity towards Israel as Muslims of the same nationality (same would go for Lebanese and Syrian Christians). The anti-Semitism I encounter is typically a misplaced anti-Zionism or anti-Israel that transforms into something more ignorant by guilting a whole culture, the Jews, for the actions of Israel. I know this is anecdotal, but I haven't see a poll on this to flush out the truth in statistics so I have to go with what I've seen.

The feelings Muslims have are generally negative towards Israel, but I don't think this is generated by some inherent hatred in the Koran for Jews or an overwhelming radicalization of the populaces. I would say that the majority have been manipulated by their governments, mostly undemocratic and economically/philosophically backwards, to have a scape goat else than the corruption of government official, for their problems. Secondly, I wouldn't discount the mistreatment of Palestinians by Israel and publicization of said treatment in the global media. Whether you are willing to admit it or not, Israeli occupation has been humiliating and unhumanitarian, which has fed deeply into the perceptions of Israel across the world.

I won't, however, discount the stupidity of people to turn their feelings towards Israel into anti-Semitism. I think it's an easy out -- a short cut to thinking, if you will -- for many to get caught in simple traps of stereotyping and judging people's. The frightening aspect of extremism in the Middle East is the ability for terrorists to turn legitimate grievances -- undemocratic governments, appalling human rights, terrible economies -- and channel it into an obscene hatred for a plethora of perceived guilty groups.

This is obviously a complex subject that I'm not fully qualified to discuss, but I'll share my personal view. Israel is a nation-state just like any other. My criticisms of Israel or Palestine are similar to the criticisms I have for any other country: founded in the belief that a countries actions run contrary to the way I believe the world should progress, I would feel the need to speak up, regardless of what nation it is.


Manuela says:

Salutare Alec,

Israel/Arab/Muslim relationship has several layers and as you said, its a very complicated topic. There are no easy answers, but I'll do my best to clarify my opinions.

"Do you think that Jews were hated before the creation of Israel and current and past problems with Palestine?" This is actually a fact stated by the MB. That is why I suggested Qutb, al Banna and Afleq writings. MB has an Islamic ideology that goes against Christians and Jews -- more recently MB claimed that they are against imperialism and colonialism, but it runs deeper than that. It is all about the dream of having an Islamic Caliphate.

Yes, there are Arab Christians who dislike the Jews and dont trust them. You very well explained that it has to do with zionism, some not very well thought policies of Israel as a state, so on, so forth. But I would say that if Israel will further stress their willingness to peacefully coexist with their neighbors, the Arab Christians can and I think will rethink their position. Fro all perspectives (less that of oil wealth) Lebanon is extremely important, and if the West won't succeed there, that is the end of all armistices, HUdna, fitna, etc. and the Christians will be isolated if not worse. Actually, it will be more than that, just take a look at the Copts in Egypt, Christians who are openly against HA in the Southern villages (I know it first hand) and Christians all over the region. Need I mention how they are treated in Saudi, Yemen, etc? I was asked once, what is worse than a Christian (I was wearing a cross as a pendant)and I blankly starred because I suspected the answer but was too surprised by the question to answer. When I told the story to one of my Christian friends, he said something like, yeah, we know it. They hate we are in power and would want to treat us as second or third class citizens.

In the Islamic frame of mind ( I point out that only some Muslims are radicals, not all, but then again could the later be considered true believers if they disregard the Quran principles regarding the People of the Book?) revenge and regain of the lost dignity is what drives them. True, in Lebanon shiias were poorly treated. So, now its pay back time. We thought that if technology advanced we, as human beings also evolved. And we did, just that at different paces. This gap is huge and if the secular Muslims won't act against the radicals in their midst, nothing good will come of it.
Talking about mistreatment -- Muslim Arabs use the Palestinians for decades. It is like Fatah and Hamas -- they killed each other, then kissed each other only to again kill each other. As long as they are busy with that, Jews and Christians can take a break. It sounds cruel but that is my personal opinion. I hope things will change to the better. Sheikh Ibrahim al-Salih (former politburo member of Harakat Al-Tawhid al-Islami, at least thats what he claims) recently said that a war between Sunnis and Shiias will be much more dangerous than a nuclear bomb because it will spread all over the globe. Thus, as foreigners we are not far from the truth when we say that Muslims are eagerly looking for battles, for Islam, oil, political power, for preeminence between sects, etc. and the downside is that they have a common enemy: us (by us, Hizb ut Tahrir,Jemaah Islamiyah, MB, etc understands secularism, Hamas finds the Jews culpable for everything, so on, so forth)

If you have the time, check this link, http://www.douglasfarah.com/article/202/a-reprise-on-sheikh-al-qaradawi.com
I think its an interesting reading.

Alec, thank you for this Q/A session.


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