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Gore vs Democracy in the Developing World

Filed under: Africa ~ Philosphy

09292001k.jpgYou might find this hard to believe (then again, you might not find it surprising in in the least): Al Gore is a horrendous polluter.

Yep, that's right, Mr. Green is Unclean. As Charles Krauthammer wrote in a recent column in Time magazine, Gore's "Tennessee mansion consumes 20 times the electricity used by the average American home. Last August alone it consumed twice as much power as the average home consumes in a year." That's to say nothing of the fact that he spurns public transportation for limosines and airplanes.

Al thinks this pollution he spews out is OK, however, because he bribes others not to pollute by purchasing "carbon credits" -- so it's a wash. Krauthammer explains that even if you think this is morally acceptable in the context of pollution (shouldn't role model Al reduce pollution rather than just trying to break even? is bribery really OK?), and even if it actually works (Krauthammer says it won't, and may in fact make pollution worse), the net result is to destroy democracy in the developing world. How? Krauthammer writes:

For example, GreenSeat, a Dutch carbon-trading outfit, buys offsets from a foundation that plants trees in Uganda's Mount Elgon National Park to soak up the carbon emissions of its rich Western patrons. Small problem: expanding the park encroaches on land traditionally used by local farmers. As a result, reports the New York Times, "villagers living along the boundary of the park have been beaten and shot at, and their livestock has been confiscated by armed park rangers." All this so that swimming pools can be heated and Maseratis driven with a clear conscience in the fattest parts of the world.

Now, let's leave aside the obvious fact that trees in Uganda won't do a blessed thing to "soak up" toxic runoff from an American power station or other industrial facility like what was discovered at the famous Love Canal (is it only warming Mr. Green cares about, and not pollution in general?). Let's forget about whether the smoke from Al's chimneys is really going to fly all the way to Uganda rather that being inhaled first by some poor little kid in Nashville. The point is this: people don't want to give up carbon. Carbon is delicious. From Al's own egregious actions, that's plain to see. Ergo, you have to force them to, by undemocratic means. Naturally, forcing Al himself to do so is out of the question. So Al chooses to force some helpless Ugandan farmers instead. He's inviting (no, causing) dictatorship for profit.

Looks like Al is realizing what Kermit knew all along: It's not easy being green!

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Comments


Singh T. Junior says:

Krauthammer is a fox "news" affiliate. His credibility is zero.


La Russophobe says:

Please try to be more accurate in your criticism. Krauthammer is a Putlizer-prize-winning journalist and a regular columnist for the Washington Post. He's a former speechwriter for arch liberal Walter Mondale. Hardly a crazed neocon as you seem to imply with your FOX reference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Krauthammer


Singh T. Junior says:

Keith Olbermann explains Al Gore's energy use and neo-con attacks such as the one listed here by Krauthammer who has zero credibility.


bob says:

What a moronic piece oif crap this article is.

Do you realize your just spewing hate and you didnrt make a single factual statement? Just overblown bullshit from some douchebag asshole. I would say shut the fuck up but you are helping make the case that the nay sayers are just a bunch of stupid hateful dicks.


La Russophobe says:

SINGH:

Thanks for abandoning your personal attack on Mr. Krauthammer's credentials, which was clearly unfounded. I guess you are suggesting that you think Mr. Olbermann is an unbiased founatain of bipartisan truth. I disagree; for instance, he attempts to smear the American Enterprise Institute in a clearly partisan manner and his seething hatred of FOX news is well known, hardly a model for objectivity. The video you refer to doesn't dispute that Gore purchases carbon credits for his massive energy use, far larger than that of an ordinary American who doesn't live in a mansion, nor does it question the potentially anti-democratic and harmful side-effects of purchasing carbon credits in the developing world. All your video does is claim that Gore may not be using as much energy as his electric bill implies on its face because he buys some expensive "green" energy. Gore lives in a house that is far bigger than he needs and consumes far more energy than an ordinary American. Rather than cut his use, he buys carbon credits to rationalize it. Those facts given by Krauthhammer are unquestionably true. You can't justify an environmentalist living in a mansion and guzzling energy, so you try to change the subject. I feel your pain.

BOB:

Thanks for your thoughtful feedback. I'll be sure to use it as a model in the future.


Loren Michael says:

Hi, here's another article:

1) Gore has a large house that he works out of. One can imagine that he has a staff, not to mention a possible security detail. It's not difficult to see how this might add up to being a little bigger than the standard house.
2) From the article "That�s a total of $432 a month spent to pay extra for solar or other renewable energy sources."
3) He drives a Lexus hybrid SUV.


Singh T. Junior says:

Al Gore is not an ordinary American. He is the elected President of the United States by people of this country. He has served this nations military, congress, senate, and vice-presidency. He efforts in educating American people about Global Climate Change are above and beyond any expectations.

Why you keep brining Krauthhammer, who has NO CREDIBILITY, over and over into this issue? Every time I see that guy on T.V., I turn it off and go running 5 miles to clean my brain with flow of fresh blood. I do credit Krauthhammer for helping me stay in shape.

I say Al Gore is an extraordinary American, a true patriot, and a man with a vision for a prosperous and harmonious future of this nation and of this planet.

If his house serves as his home office, then why does that bother you? Why are you whining? Is Mr. Gore asking you to pay his bills?


La Russophobe says:

LOREN:

Thanks for the link! One can "imagine" all sorts of things if one wants to, but the article you cite states: "'Every family has a different carbon footprint,' said Kalee Krider, a spokeswoman for Gore. The Gore’s 10,000 square foot house on Lynnwood Boulevard doesn’t have a small one."

But it SHOULD have a small one, if Gore wants to be taken seriously as an environmentalist. At least, that's my opinion. And Gore shouldn't try to make it SEEM smaller by buying carbon credits, he shold actually shrink the size of the footprint.

Driving an SUV, hybrid or not, is no way to set an environmental example. Gore should take buses and trains if he wants to do that.


La Russophobe says:

SINGH:

This blog is about the status of democracy in the developing world; you seem to be overlooking that point. The point of this article is the effect of buying carbon credits on democracy in the developing world. If you'd like to argue that they promote democracy or don't undermine it, I'll be delighted to hear your position.


Singh T. Junior says:

This article says

"Al thinks this pollution he spews out is OK, however, because he bribes others not to pollute by purchasing "carbon credits" -- so it's a wash."

AL Gore's policies on Carbon Credits to reduce pollution is a free-market capitalistic approach to reduce the green-house effect. This article is a direct attack on Al Gore by Krauthammer of fox news. The investments of carbon-credits goes to create solutions for alternative energy sources and energy independence. Unless you had your head in the sand, you must have heard Gore's testimony on the hill, where he promoted idea of creating a grid like internet, where creation of energy would be decentralized -- leading to free market trading of energy.

SO do not try to insult my intelligence by saying that you or your buddy Krauthammer are interested in issues of developing countries.


Loren Michael says:

La Russophobe:

First, that article indicated, immediately after the portion that you quoted, "They use compact fluourescent lights and are in the midst of a renovation project that includes having solar panels installed on their home to reduce fossil fuel consumption more..."

You'll have to forgive me, but I don't think it's unreasonable to advocate something and not slit one's wrists by taking some kind of extremist position on the matter. I don't want to make any undue assumptions, but there seems to be a certain tone that suggests that unless Gore is living in a commune and eating bean sprouts that he grew himself, this kind of criticism is going to persist. The article makes it obvious (as noted above) that he is taking steps, in a variety of ways, to reduce the size of his carbon footprint.

Why is an SUV categorically bad? SUVs, in my understanding, are only derided because they are wasteful and excessively polluting. It strikes me that if these drawbacks are done away with, there's not a great deal to complain about. Please, enlighten me as to why a clean(er) SUV is a bad thing. If anything, it spreads the message that changes are necessary to combat climate change, but we don't need to live like savages to make those changes.


La Russophobe says:

LOREN:

I don't want to argue how ungreen Al is. Even if he only uses 10% more energy than an average person, as opposed to 20 times more, some people would say that's hypocritical. Would it be slitting Al's wrists, an "extremist" position, for him to live in the same amount of space as an average American and use the same amount of energy? Maybe. Many would say Al's global warming prescriptions are extremist. It's just a matter of opinion and not the point of this post. The point of this post is to point out that Al buys carbon credits because he uses more energy than a normal person should, and to point out that carbon credits create the potential for anti-democratic abuses in the developoing world. If you have evidence that they pose no such threat, please do link to it, we'd be very interested. If you agree that they may, then we have nothing to discuss (except maybe how to get Al to see that point).

SINGH: Those farmers in Uganda might disagree about what sort of "free market" Al is encouraging. And I think the idea that Al Gore is a proponent of free market capitalism is absurd on its face.


Singh T. Junior says:

The Energy Electranet

By Al Gore
Newsweek

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16127831/site/newsweek/

Dec. 18, 2006 issue - Over the past 200 years, the industrial revolution has created vast wealth and huge improvements in the human condition—in a few dozen highly industrialized countries. The engine of that revolution was fueled by coal and then supercharged with oil—multiplying the productivity of human labor many, many times over. Although we have reaped many benefits from this intensive use of energy, we are now faced with an urgent crisis—a crisis that is altering the very nature of the Earth's climate.

Sheik Ahmed Zaki Yamani, the former Saudi oil minister, once said, "The Stone Age came to an end not for a lack of stones, and the Oil Age will end, but not for lack of oil." It is the climate crisis that is the forcing mechanism for a change away from the fuels of the Industrial Revolution to a new age. As many know, the Chinese expression for "crisis" consists of two characters side by side: the first is the symbol for "danger," the second the symbol for "opportunity."

And what will the technological opportunities look like? Taking a page from the early development of ARPANET (the Pentagon's Advanced Research Projects Agency Network)—which ultimately became the Internet—we will rely on new kinds of distribution networks for electricity and liquid fuels. We will be less dependent on large, centralized coal-generating plants and massive oil refineries. Societies of the future will rely on small, diversified and renewable sources of energy, ranging from windmills and solar photovoltaics to second-generation ethanol-and biodiesel-production facilities. Widely dispersed throughout the countryside, these streamlined facilities will make the industrialized world more secure and less dependent on unstable and threatening oil-producing nations. Off-grid applications of renewable power sources can provide energy for the 3 billion people now stuck in poverty.


Loren Michael says:

La Russophobe:

"Potential for abuse" is no more a reason to discard an idea like carbon credits than it is to discard the idea of buying any product from overseas. Innumerable products are made, wholly or in part in places like China and similarly undemocratic and authoritarian regions. I don't doubt that there are abuses. I do doubt that they are unique abuses, or abuses inherent to the system.

I have yet to see evidence that they pose any more of a "threat" than buying a cheap T-shirt. I welcome you to provide evidence that they intrinsically prey on developed countries any more than any other commercial interest, and why parties interested in spreading democratic and libertarian values should be overly concerned about the concept.


Josh says:

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YOUR MOTHER says:

"Potential for abuse" is no more a reason to discard an idea like carbon credits than it is to discard the idea of buying any product from overseas.


Good idea. In addition to global warming, there are far too many murders around the world. I still want to murder, though, so I'll invent "murder credits", so I can murder but bribe, oops, pay other people not to. I still need to murder, you see, because I'm rich and better than other people and don't want to inconvenience myself. Do as I say, not as I do.


Loren Michael says:

Cute, but your comment bespeaks a fundamental misunderstanding of the argument. Is providing economic incentives for achieving reductions in the emissions of pollutants a bad thing these days?

Your argument is suggesting that because a rich person can afford to buy, say, a hybrid car while a poor person cannot indicates that the poor person is somehow "worse" than the rich person. Rather, the rich person is simply able to use a wider range of resources.


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Dryad says:

I think when there are articles focussing on someone's home or car - personal things, as opposed to the real concern - global warming, that the critic should be forced to advice us what steps he or she is personally taking to reduce their carbon footprint. Just the fact that the article is completely focussed on attacking the man rather than talking about the idea (i.e., climate change, global warming) diminishes both the article and the person who wrote it.

I believe the article also only chose one fact rather than the complete facts, some of which were added by another person who commented. As not including more facts completely distorts this story, this also discredits the writer.

Linking the writer with Mondale suggests he (the writer) is a Democrat instead of a conservative Republican, which gives a better idea of why he has only provided partial information on Gore in the article.

The writer may have been a credible journalist at one point. But one would expect some kind of standards and objectivity in a good reporter, but I do not see this in the article.

It is a cowardly thing to try to attack an idea only by attacking the man who has spent decades of his life, travelling the world, trying to get people to understand the importance of global warming.



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