Publius Pundit: The New Cold War Archive

whatever says:

The Exile, for all its flaws, wrote a much more satisfying review of the two "New Cold War" books:

http://exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=17180&IBLOCK_ID=35

(Note to Kim and her barely literate readership: Please actually read the Exile piece before you (inevitably)flame it. Hard work for non-native English speakers, I know, but it's much funnier and more interesting than any of the garbage that Kim dumps out)

nice says:

Russia, Lucas explains: "has dropped three Soviet attributes from its foreign policy: a messianic ideology, raw military power, and the imperative of territorial expansion."

Yup, sounds like a New Cold War to me.

Vova says:

Nice,
Your assertion is based on a false premise that Russia is not qual to the Soviet Union. But Russia is the same Soviet Union albeit truncated and castrated. All of the attributes are there except that they have no military. What they have is a marauding horde of demented subhuman slaves and ageing nuclear weapons. They are impotent. Castrati and normal men LOOK the same but they are not same.
The messianic fervor is there--stronger and uglier as the country slowly disintegrates and her inhabitants degenerate into imbecility.
Expansion is still there--as evidenced by the russische schwein annexation of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

Vova says:

Whatever,
I wanted to look the source but all I found in Exile was a ranking of Moscow meat markets by how easy it is to get laid there

yeah! says:

the link works just fine. i'm going to assume that you were trying to make a joke but, as usual, it came across as lame.

kim, you earlier noted that we should judge russia based on who defends it. a fair point, but shouldn't we do it with your blog as well?

judging from extensive time spent reading your blogs your three biggest (only?) fans are

1) a person who is incapable of expressing a coherent thought in less than 1,000 words and feels that wikipedia is an authoritative source (artfldgr)
2) a racist freak whose idea of humor is to compulsively misspell russia (elmer)
3) an islamic wacko who lives in the middle east and seems to be fond of talking about castration (vova)

what is more, none of them are capable of writing english at a high school level, suggesting that they are either very very stupid or, like you, immigrants. it's quite a cast of characters you've assembled, kim, but please do us real americans a favor and go back to whatever hell hole you crawled out of (we have more than enough arrogant morons already)

elmer says:

Well, I made the mistake of reading the Exile so-called review. The pictures and links to "meet beautiful rooshan women" kept getting in the way.

3 points:

1) it's not a review of the 2 books, it's a debate and response to the books, sheer Kremlin propaganda, and the author was hyper-ventilating. I've seen 6th graders do a better job.

2) according to the Exile, roosha has gotten stronger under Putin.

Well, Putin has gotten stronger under Putin, but I really don't see that roosha has gotten stronger under Putin - the people are still sucking eggs.

3) "Rosneft and Gazprom have Europe by the balls and there's nothing much anybody can do about it."

The Exile says there is no need to build alternate pipeline projects to bypass roosha.

Any smart capitalist knows that multiple sources of supply is the best thing for a free market, whether roosha thinks it has Europe by the gonads or not.

Vova says:

Elmer, ditto.
Exile is a pimping service with occasional articles promoting Ames' handlers. Yes, they are fairly well written, but so is Playboy

elmer says:

We are rashka, hear us roar.

Putin: Medvedev Won't Be Any Easier
By MANSUR MIROVALEV | Associated Press Writer
11:01 AM EST, March 8, 2008

NOVO-OGARYOVO, Russia - President Vladimir Putin said Saturday that the West should not expect relations with Russia to be any easier under his newly elected successor, who is "no less of a Russian nationalist" than Putin.

Putin said many observers view Dmitry Medvedev as a more liberal politician and hope Medvedev's presidency will help ease strained relations between Moscow and the West.

"Some of our partners can't wait to see me stop fulfilling my duties so that they could deal with another man," Putin said at a news conference after talks with visiting German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

"But (Medvedev) is no less of a Russian nationalist -- in a positive way -- than me. And I don't think it will be easier for our partners to deal with him," he said.

Merkel later met with Medvedev, the first foreign leader to visit him since his resounding victory in Sunday's election to succeed Putin. Merkel said she expected cordial ties between the two countries to continue.

"Putin just told us that with you, it would not be easier than it was with him. But I didn't allow myself to say that I hope it won't be harder," she said.

Medvedev's inauguration is scheduled for May 7. Putin is expected to become his prime minister, which is a more administrative governmental role but has led to speculation over how much power he will continue to wield.

Putin again warned that Kosovo's independence would only encourage separatism in Europe. He also accused the West of trying to replace the United Nations with NATO.

"An endless expansion of the military bloc under modern conditions when there is no confrontation between two hostile systems -- we can see that it is not only unfeasible but harmful and counterproductive," he said.

Merkel rejected Putin's assertion about the Western alliance.

"NATO does not want to become the second U.N., this is an alliance of absolutely defensive nature that is based on common values," she said.

Russia has repeatedly warned that the West's recognition of Kosovo's Feb. 17 declaration of independence could fuel other separatist movements, particularly in the former Soviet Union. Nations that recognize its independence from Serbia, however, say Kosovo's situation is unique.

Ethnic Albanians account for nearly 90 percent of Kosovo's 2 million people. The territory came under U.N. and NATO administration after a NATO-led air war halted former Yugoslav leader Slobodan Milosevic's crackdown on ethnic Albanian separatists in 1999.

Putin was a KGB officer in East Germany in the Soviet Union's waning days and speaks fluent German -- a fact that has contributed in the past to his friendly ties with German leaders.

Merkel and Putin began their talks at the presidential compound on Moscow's outskirts with some light joking about International Women's Day -- a major holiday in Russia.

"You thought up the holiday, but in Russia we do it in a big way. For us, it is a nationwide holiday," he said.

The Kremlin said the two leaders' discussions would focus on their economic ties and joint energy projects, particularly the prospective $7.3 billion Nord Stream pipeline from Russia under the Baltic Sea to Germany.

Construction of the 750-mile undersea pipeline is due to start in 2010. Nord Stream AG is controlled by Russia's state gas monopoly OAO Gazprom, of which Medvedev is chairman.

Vova says:

Elmer, it's the old argument of Ernest Röhm vs. Adolf Hitler.
But rooshan babes are hot, you must admit this

oh elmer says:

"2) according to the Exile, roosha has gotten stronger under Putin.

Well, Putin has gotten stronger under Putin, but I really don't see that roosha has gotten stronger under Putin - the people are still sucking eggs."

Elmer, if you can't accept the fact that Russia has gotten stronger (note the 'ER' which signifies a comparative) under Putin, you're beyond all hope. Russia in 1999 was for all intents and purposes a failed state: 70+% of the economy was conducted through barter, and total economic output was barely 40% of its 1991 level. In 2008 Russia finally surpassed its 1991 level of output with a significantly smaller population (and thus higher per capita incomes).

The question of "Is Russia strong?" is a very different one from "Has Russia gotten stronger under Putin?" Needless to say, the question of Russia's strength largely depends what country you're comparing it with. Compared to the US, Russia is still quite weak. Compared to the Ukraine? It's quite powerful.

Vova says:

Is the shithole of a cesspit stronger now than it was before the malignant little troll was anointed its Fuhrer? Depends on how you define strength. The infrastructure is worse than eight years ago. The social structure is worse. The military has all by disintegrated for all practical purposes except for the palace guard. There are four navy ships and three planes. Total combat capable manpower strength, as estimated by the Fuhrer himself, is 55,000--far less than Ukraine's. And so on.

elmer says:

The only thing that has happened is that Putin and a favored few have gotten stronger under Putin. He kicked out Berezovsky - good. But he replaced Boris B with his own thugs in order to line his own pockets.

In a strong country, there is no need to falsify elections.

Pay attention carefully to the following article about how blank protocols were submitted to the election commission, along with other tricks on voter turnout, etc.

Excerpt pasted in below.

http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2008/03/6d7990a4-5217-4b82-b685-3ec7435ed2bf.html

'Brazen' Falsifications

Independent monitor Buzin told gazeta.ru that there are increasing signs that brazen election-day manipulation is on the rise across the country, including in cities like Moscow and St. Petersburg. He noted that polling station No. 1257 in Moscow reported a 100-percent turnout (2,400 registered voters). "Such results have been seen in Karachayevo-Cherkesia and other Caucasian republics, but in the capital -- this is a first," he said. "Reports of such statistics are coming in from cities nationally."

On the evening of March 2, St. Petersburg Yabloko official Maksim Reznik appeared on a small local television station and told of an experiment that he carried out during the presidential vote. He reported that he and six other activists visited seven St. Petersburg polling stations. At each one, they told officials that they were residents of Murmansk without identification or absentee ballots and in each case they were admitted to vote in violation of election rules.

The next day, Reznik was arrested in the middle of the night for allegedly assaulting a police officer and a St. Petersburg court ordered him held without bond pending trial because his previous involvement with opposition protests supposedly demonstrated contempt for the law. He could face up to six years in prison.

Vova says:

Elmer,
Thanks for casting pearls before a swine.

elmer says:

It's in the Bible - the Sermon on the Mount.

And it's understandable that rooskie oily orthodox would not know it, since they only go to church to get married, if that, and don't read the Bible.

You rooskie apologists are the ones who do not understand the fundamentals of a strong country. If Putin were really that great, and roosha was really strong, there would be no fear and squelching of opposition.

For you rooskies, who are often wrong, but never in doubt:

Cast pearls before swine

Meaning:

Offer or show something valuable, good, or beautiful to someone who does not understand its value

If you are casting pearls before swine, you are wasting your time showing or offering something very helpful or valuable to someone who does not understand or appreciate it.

Example:
Don't bother explaining Shakespeare to Bob. It would be like casting pearls before swine.

Tom wouldn't listen to Sarah's wise advice. She was just casting pearls before swine.

Alan Kellogg says:

Patience in what we'll need. The patience to wait until Russia has deteriorated to the point she just cannot stay together. The point at which she no longer has the resources, people and material, to maintain even a sham of an infrastructure. When that time comes the question then becomes; will we have the will to intervene to establish some measure of societal stability.

Or will be stand by while the neighbors squabble over the corpse, and China annexes the Russian Far East for the mineral resources?

But China wouldn't do that?

Who would stop them? NATO is going to be too busy securing Russia's nuclear warheads and establishing islands of security in a sea of chaos. Currently the only power capable of intervening on Russia's behalf in the far east is the United States, and American intervention would be symbolic at best. Any Chinese/American confrontation over the Russian Far East will be resolved according to China's assessment of American resolve.

Putin is not the answer to Russia's problems. He isn't even the cause. Vladimir Putin is a symptom of the disease that is tearing Russia apart, and the way things work now Russia will neither be saved or reborn, but replaced by something new. Whether it is a better thing, or a worse will, in the long run, depend on our willingness to bear the burdens necessary. Russia's leaders refuse to show the wisdom needed, can we?

elmer says:

"Putin is not the answer to Russia's problems. He isn't even the cause. Vladimir Putin is a symptom of the disease that is tearing Russia apart"

BINGO! Never were truer words written!

Lenin takes over - the castle. Stalin takes over - the castle. Putin takes over - the castle.

The people suffer.

Along comes "entering puberty" to tell us that Putin has inspired - patriotism.

This is exactly what Hitler did - inspire patriotism and squelch all opposition.

No constructive opposition in roosha? How do you know, unless you let them speak?

How do you know, unless you test their ideas in the free marketplace of ideas?

Are the Russian people not smart enough to judge for themselves what is good and just and right?

Does it take a great big nanny Putin to judge for them, without any debate, without any free and open exchange of ideas and platforms?

Granted, there were a bunch of thugs who came in prior to Putin, including from the West, like Jeffrey Sachs, and robbed the place blind at the expense of the people.

But that is no reason to squelch opposition, or true democracy.

Alan Kellogg is exactly on the mark - roosha's leaders refuse to show the wisdom that is needed for the good of the people, rather than just a select few.

And that has always been the case, whether it's Ivan Grozny, or Nicholas, or Lenin, or Stalin - or Putin.

wow says:

"Granted, there were a bunch of thugs who came in prior to Putin, including from the West, like Jeffrey Sachs, and robbed the place blind at the expense of the people.

But that is no reason to squelch opposition, or true democracy."

Wow Elmer, I almost had a heart attack when I read these words. You mean the West's treatment of Russia wasn't entirely selfless? You mean the West's sage advice was actually part of the problem? You mean that the bulk of Russia's citizens (the ones who were 'robbed blind' during the 90's) might actually have a legitimate reason to doubt the West's motives in dealing with their country?

If you admit (and you do) that the West was either complicit in or indifferent towards the looting of Russia (and I would add the deaths of millions of people from the attendant collapse in living standards) isn't it entirely predictable that the Russian state,not to mention the vast majority of the citizenry, would want to systematically exclude all political groups with Western linkages given the abysmal track record of Western 'advice'?

And what kind of 'true democracy' do you really expect to develop in a place that was, as you say, 'robbed blind'? Wealth doesn't necessarily cause democracy, see Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, but some degree of economic prosperity is absolutely necessary for a stable social order. Russia has just now surpassed the (low) level of economic development it had in 1991. Let's see what a few more years of 7% GDP growth does, and then let's pass judgment

elmer says:

Look, wow, the plundering was done, 99% of it, by rooshans.

Were there people from the West who took advantage also? Yes.

But the rooshan thugs did mighty fine on their own, thank you. They learned very quickly how to steal openly - to the detriment of the Russian people.

In fact, there was a deliberate policy set by rooshans as an attempt to try and erase the vestiges of the sovok system. We've already been through those posts.

The questions remain:

1) where are the Russian leaders who would eliminate thuggery and corruption and dictatorship for the public good and the benefit of the Russian people?

2) are the Russian people not smart enough or capable enough to judge for themselves between United Russia and the Putin dictatorship versus other candidates and parties? I think they are.

And I don't count Zvirinovksy (spelling intentional - he is a "zvirina," an animal, a travesty of a human being, a loudmout bag of puke) as valid "opposition."

And who's talking about excluding Western groups? That doesn't even come into play.

I am talking about letting the Russian people really have a free, open and real choice, instead of the systematic elimination of opposition via various tricks, and instead of falsification of elections, as happened in Medvedev's so-called "election."

Instead of once again imposing a putrid, odious, corrupt tsar.

fredy says:

Good article

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