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Neo-Soviet Russia Voids the CFE

Filed under: Russia

We reported back at the end of April on Russian "President" Vladimir Putin's threats to unilaterally repudiate the Conventional Forces in Europe arms limitation treaty. At that time, the Russophile apologists for Russia said that Putin was only blowing off steam, that his remarks were for "domestic consumption," that Russia was merely "flexing its muscles." Russia wouldn't really go as far as to unilaterally withdraw from a major bulwark of stability in Europe.

Well, now Russia has actually done it. Do you dare to imagine how the world would react if President Bush took an action of this kind? Do you dare to imagine how the world would screech and wail about American arrogance and unilateralism? Hopefully, the reaction will be the same where Russia is concerned. A Washington Post story, quoting Russian analyst Pavel Felgenhaur, stated:

"This will be a major irritant. It will seriously spoil relations. The kind of soothing effect from the last summit with Putin and (President) Bush will evaporate swiftly," he said referring a summit between the leaders earlier this month at the Bush family home in Kennebunkport, Maine. Felgenhauer also said that there is no provision under the treaty for a moratorium, suggesting Russia was acting illegally. "This is basically non-compliance, and this is an illegal move," he said.

Let's not forget the basic reality: The US alone has an economy 12 times larger than Russia's and a military establishment as large as the next six largest countries combined. That's to say nothing of the NATO alliance countries,who are directly affected by this outrageous Russian provocation. It's as if Russia has decided to take a "do-over" on the Cold War, certain it can win "this time" and heedless of the stakes or the odds. We shouldn't be surprised by this, since Russia has, just like the USSR, virtually cut itself off from the flow of information about the real world by killing off journalists, shutting down publishing houses and obliterating opposition political groups. So, quite literally, it doesn't know what it's doing (just as the USSR didn't).

Welcome to Cold War, Part II. They said Russia "couldn't go back" to Soviet thinking. It happened. They said Russia wouldn't violate this treaty. It happened. Time to stop listening to what they say, isn't it?

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james says:

How would you like if Russia deployed missiles into cuba?
I know, trust our government, just ask the Iraquies.


Colleen says:

"At that time, the Russophile apologists for Russia said that Putin was only blowing off steam, that his remarks were for "domestic consumption," that Russia was merely "flexing its muscles."

No, it was people like Fried, Bryza, and Waszczykowski who made these comments, not Russophiles, but Russophobes. Even with today's news Waszczykowski continued the line: "It could also be related to internal reasons, a way of showing Russia's strength ahead of the presidential campaign" (http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=uri:2007-07-14T113045Z_01_L14393402_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-SECURITY-RUSSIA-EUROPE-COL.XML&pageNumber=1&summit=)

These people are dumbfounded of Russia's regained strength and are still living in the 90s, where Russia was a prisoner in its own home and they think that Russia is helpless in the international arena. Not!

On the other hand, Russophiles like myself applaud Putin's move as it is a strike against the unipolar world created by the U.S., an American Empire.

So, long time coming. A completely anti-Russian treaty, ratified only by Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan. With Poland and Estonia becoming increasingly militant of late, Russia mustn't let self-imposed goodwill get in the way of national security.


Colleen says:

Sorry. Please edit or take out the link!


La Russophobe says:

JAMES:

If the US backed out of a treaty it had signed with Russia because Russia put defensive missiles in Cuba without violating that treaty, then Russia would scream to high heaven and would have every right to do so. Do you think at all before you make your insipid statements?

COLEEN:

If Russia can break treaties it has signed unilaterally, the US can do the same. Are you sure you want a governed world on those terms to enter the new cold war? I think it's quite insane. The US crushed the USSR, it can easily to the same to Russia. You are condemning Russia to doom, and as a such are th worst kind of Russia hater imaginable.


Colleen says:

"the US can do the same"

It did, the ABM treaty.

"The US crushed the USSR, it can easily to the same to Russia. You are condemning Russia to doom, and as a such are th worst kind of Russia hater imaginable."

This comment reminds me of the movie 300 when the Persians came to Sparta and asked them to put down their arms because they don't have a chance and that fighting will simply be suicide. If you think that Russia will ever hand over the keys to Moscow, give-up its freedoms, and become a colony of the U.S. you're dreaming. Regarding how I think things will turn out: Russia has a history of defeating Empires and it will be able to defeat the U.S., militarily, if it comes down to it. I am completely read-up on missile technology and, hands down, Russia has an insurmountable advantage.


La Russophobe says:

COLEEN:

You've missed the point, not once but TWICE. First of all, the ABM treaty is about DEFENSIVE weapons. The CFE is about OFFENSIVE weapons. Second, the point isn't that America doesn't break treaties (though I flatly reject your contention that the ABM situation is remotely similar to the CFE), the point is that it DOES and now Russia has supplied it with JUSTIFICATION for doing so. That's a horrifying error, because the US is the more powerful country and doesn't need legal protection the way Russia does. It's classic Russian self-destruction.

As for the rest, you're just trying to change the subject, as a typical Russophile always does. You haven't said a word to undermine the premise that Russia can't handle America in a fight but it still provoking one. The USSR no longer exists. What will replace Russia?


Anton Gorodetsky says:

This claim that Russia is cutting itself off from the outside world is just plain dumb - 60% of Russians now have access to cellphones, and 20 million Russians are online and can read anything they damn please - even Chechen terrorist sites.

The sky didn't fall when Bush got rid of ABM Treaty, why should this be any different? The Russian army that is supposedly getting ready for new Cold War is cutting service for conscripts from two years to one year.


Gordon says:

This is just another example of the sad path on which Russia is walking, the increasingly steep path to facism. Worse, a facism governed and controled by an all pervasive government/criminal syndicate, the FSB. Although Russia is pumping scads of money into its military right now, Russia is still militarily weak. This, and the information options of the Russian people as mentioned by Anton, are (possibly temporarily) going to stay Russia's hand even though they have blatently brocken the CFE. The real reason at this time for this provocative illegal move is to provide the groundwork for the establishment of something that is an absolute necessity for any facist state: the evil and threatening external enemy.


La Russophobe says:

ANTON:

Sorry, but it's your comment that is just plain dumb. The vast majority of Russians have no regular access to the Internet, and cell phones are USELESS unless you know somebody in the West to call you with news reports, which most Russians certainly DON'T. All you are doing doing is repeating Putin's propaganda, and that's about as dumb a thing as it's possible to do.

America saying it will prepare to defend itself is not the same as Russia saying it will prepare to attack. The strongest country in the world can get away with things that a basket case like Russia simply can't, and the fact that Russophile morons like you can't understand that explains why Russia loses up to 1 million from its population every year and why Russians work for an average wage of $3 per hour.

The sky didn't fall for America because Russia isn't powerful enough to MAKE it fall, dimwit. America is. You want to find out? Find. Keep doing exactly what you're doing, and watch Russia go the way of the USSR. Will that make you happy? If so, I pity you.


Lars H. says:

While I enjoy reading this heated discussion, I'd like you to think about questions less on a normative and more on a policy-oriented level. What if the EU would be capable to economically confront Russia and hence "correct" at least some of the latest controversial developments in Russian foreign policy? Wes Mitchell wrote an interesting piece for the Atlantic Community outlining a possible German-Polish cooperation:

The Case for German-Polish Rapprochement


La Russophobe says:

LARS:

You are certainly correct that the resolution of these issues will quite likely come on economic rather than military battlefronts, and likewise to point out that on that score it's necessary for the EU to develop policy initiatives in a more effective way. Indeed, if the existence of the Russian beast forces the EU to do so, then it may well be a blessing in disguise, since once the Russian problem is resolved by neutralizing the military and energy threats, the EU can reap the benefits of enhanced cooperation for many years to come. It's also a good way to for the EU to find common ground with the United States which can hopefully be leveraged into better trans-Atlantic relations as well. We'd welcome your specific thoughts on normative policy innovations.


Anton says:

I can use Internet on my cellphone. And Russians in small cities can go to Internet cafes.

I saw your site. You so proud of your comments and half are yours!

All of this hysteria is because Russia really does not care what America thinks anymore. This is what you can't accept. Russia is losing people...so is the rest of Europe, and Japan.


Anton Gorodetsky says:

and one other thing, why do you think I hate America the way you hate Russia and Russian people? I love America. How does hating Russians promoting democracy and freedom? Should I make site called Americaphobes and say I am just promoting freedom from George Bush?


La Russophobe says:

ANTON:

You are a demented liar. I never said ONE SINGLE WORD about you hating America, and couldn't possibly care less how you feel about that country.

The idea that Russians surf the Internet on their cell phones is so insane it could only come from a drunken Russophile lunatic. The average Russian earns $3 and hour and you think they spend their time cruising non-Russian media on their cell phones? It's exactly that kind of "thinking" that brought the USSR to its knees, it the same thing will happen to Russia. It's truly amazing that you can be barbarian enough to claim that Russians have real access to information rather than seeking to correct their horrific lack of it. Only someone who truly hates Russia and its people would rationalize Russian failure in such a dishonest manner.






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