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If We're so Messed Up, Why are they Copying from our Paper?

Filed under: International Institutions

The New York Times reports that despite its alleged contempt for American attitudes and values, and its repeated claims that America is in decline, the world is falling all over itself to have us provide its education:

When John Sexton, the president of New York University, first met Omar Saif Ghobash, an investor trying to entice him to open a branch campus in the United Arab Emirates, Mr. Sexton was not sure what to make of the proposal -- so he asked for a $50 million gift. "It's like earnest money: if you're a $50 million donor, I'll take you seriously," Mr. Sexton said. "It's a way to test their bona fides." In the end, the money materialized from the government of Abu Dhabi, one of the seven emirates. The demand from overseas is huge. At the University of Washington, the administrator in charge of overseas programs said she received about a proposal a week. "It's almost like spam," said the official, Susan Jeffords, whose position as vice provost for global affairs was created just two years ago.

From business to engineering to computers, from China to the Middle East, the world says one thing and does another. It says it hates America, then it wears our blue jeans. It says it doesn't respect America, then it begs our teachers to come and shine their light. It applauds terrorist attacks, then it shudders when American purchases tail off and local economies head south.

When will they ever learn?

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Comments


right... says:

Kim,

Um, do you remember that several of the 9/11 terrorists were "educated" (one has to be careful of applying that term too liberally in regards to us higher education) in the United States? Apparently all the blessings of this great land didn't take too firmly in their minds and they didn't learn enough.

There's a long history of people from nasty regimes going abroad, studying, and then returning to help out the very same nasty regime do all sorts of terrible things despite the supposed "liberalizing" effect of education abroad (A Q Khan of all people studied in the Netherlands and Belgium. Apparently he skipped the tolerance lessons and remained focused on the nuclear physics)

The thing is Kim, if you knew anything about American higher education, which of course you don't since you actually broadcast your lack of any relevant educational qualifications, you'd know that these multitudes of foreigners aren't taking the sort of claptrap that American students do: gender studies, psychology, cultural anthropology, etc. No, they take hard-core courses in chemistry, math, physics, and engineering and then, more frequently than not, go back home.

I don't expect that these students have any special grudge against America, but if you're waiting for the world to offer us a big huge "THANK YOU FOR YOUR KINDNESS" America, don't hold your breath.

(I'd also note that the primary reason American universities can and do take in so many foreigners in the hard sciences is that American high school students are simply too lazy and stupid)


La Russophobe says:

The post specially states that foreigners are studying sciences, you nitwit. Can't you at least read it before you spew out your gibberish? Perhaps you haven't heard, but some of America's critics say we suck at science. That's one of the reasons for this post, you hopeless moron.

And the post isn't about schools in the USA, it's about the USA installing schools in foreign countries like McDonalds outlets, because the whole world thinks they are great. Russia isn't being asked to do that, the good old USA is.

If you want to attack me, you really should think at least at little before you try to do so. Otherwise, you'll just come off looking like a total fool, to my amusement.


right says:

"but some of America's critics say we suck at science"

"We" do suck at science, if by "we" you mean American citizens.

You ever seen where American high schoolers (not college students, because a large % of those are foreign) rank in science and math? It's pretty pitiful. I'm not sure if its below the barbaric Russians, but its below just about any other industrialized country you can think of.

I'm sure though, you will explain away the above point by saying "we liberated Iraq and Afghanistan" or "you're an ape" or something similarly enlightened.

American science teaching and research is top-notch, but how you can be happy when foreigners are the beneficiaries of most of that excellent teaching is beyond me (as I said, most American college students languish in the political correct swamps of the humanities).

I'm still not totally sure why you're so happy that some colleges will throw up satellite campuses "like McDonald's" since McDonald's hasn't exactly had the best track record in changing other countries' cultures.
(you rememer, I'm sure, that the dear old USSR had a few McDonald's, and that your pet bugaboo "neo-Soviet" Russia has quite a few as well)


Ray says:

Kim:
"Nitwit"? You use the word "nitwit"? Didn't real Americans stop using that word around the time of Abbot and Costello?

Poor "right," you must really be devastated by being called a "nitwit." I guess if you're an immigrant like Kim Zigfeld, "nitwit" counts as a really vicious flame. How will you ever recover?


La Russophobe says:

RIGHT:

So let me see if I understand. We suck at science, but our teachers are great and the envy of the world, and our economy bestrides the globe like a colossus? Wow, really fascinating. And thanks for all the valuable data you provided to prove your "point," really a constructive and useful addition to the blog.

RAY:

I use the word when it is appropriate, Mr. Self Appointed Censor. For you, I'd choose "crude, jealous little thug." Do you sleep with a picture of Stalin under your pillow? If you don't care for the language on this blog, why do you read it? Is it because you are self-important a buffoon of no real accomplishment who has nothing better to do?

That's pretty sad and pathetic.

FYI, the Alternative newspaper Seattle Weekly (young, current, hip) has a regular feature called "Nitwit News"

http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/blogs/dailyweekly/2007/06/nitwit_news.php

and the world "nitwit" has nearly a million Google hits. The Urban Dictionary says: "Because the word isn't in great usage right now, referring to a person as a 'nitwit' can be considered a more intense way of insulting them."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nitwit


yeah! says:

'our economy bestrides the globe like a colossus?'

wow Kim, I thought America was a selfless democracy-spreading republic, not an empire. I couldn't think of a more effective image to convey your clear urge to dominate the world than the word 'colossus'

If we're a 'colossus' we're a colossus with clay feet (a sluggish and unresponsive political system), poor judgement (Iraq, George W. Bush, etc.), and a drinking (debt) problem - not exactly the kind of colossus that inspires fear, much less admiration.

Continue in the illusion that America's current economy is sustainable, that oil will go back to $20 a barrel, that the Chinese will go back to being poor and dependent and that the Russians will just die out...and watch at the rest of the world speeds by your debt-ridden and overextended American colossus


Ray says:

So you need google to prove that your choice of insults is still in modern use? You really are an immigrant, poor thing. I haven't laughed this hard since watching that Manuel character on Fawlty Towers (also an immigrant like you). You may be a knucklehead or a nincompoop or even an ignoramus, but you're definitely not a nitwit. Clearly you're doing your homework, and with a little hard work, even an immigrant like you might someday figure out how to insult your readers. You're no nitwit, "Kim Zigfeld"!


Snork Porkin says:

Wow, somebody actually cited Urban Dictionary. If anybody even questioned your intelligence the debate is now over, people who cite urbane dictionary for the word "nitwit" are ... brilliant.


Ray says:

Snork Porkin:
Yes, I cited the "urbane" dictionary. By the way, you forgot the article of speech "the." A typical immigrant mistake. Dang, this site is hilarious. All this bad immigrant English is awesome comedy, even the name "Kim Zigfeld" is a funny-sad immigrant attempt to rename herself like an American, the way Russians these days call themselves "Miguel" and "Helga" because they're ashamed of being Russian.










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